View Full Version : Still working, but could use some feedback.
I'm not too far away from submitting my site to search engines. Open to tips and advice.
Thanks
www.be-bopjoes.com
Your 50's bathroom formica background design is just horrible but fits the theme very well. So much of your site is done in bad taste. A considerable motif of the 50's (well studied). The site is easy to navigate and for a product and service site has some interest. I could suggest some changes but that might be in bad taste.
LOL,
I think what you are saying is I achieved what I was going after. Thanks for your review.
nomopbo
paulselhi
10-2-02, 06:51 PM
why not image map the front page ? have a mouse over the juke box and have a choice of tunes ? or the site entry on the fridge door which opens ?
just some ideas. i think a site like this needs motion
The background takes away from the text.And you used a different b-ground color for you left frame.Why?And like always.Using frames is a bad idea if you expect to get indexed in search engines.:)
on frames and search engines:
http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9809
The jest being:
If you want to have a framed site for whatever reason, then for goodness' sake, use your NOFRAMES tag properly! The proper usage of this tag is to take the complete HTML code from your inner page and copy it into the NOFRAMES tag.
So the code on your page should actually look something like this:
<HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Your keyword-rich descriptive title goes here.</TITLE> <META NAME="Description" CONTENT="Your one- to two-sentence keyword-rich marketing description goes here."> <META NAME="Keywords" CONTENT="Your important relevant keywords and keyword phrases go here."> </HEAD> <FRAMESET> <FRAME SRC="navigation.html" NAME="nav"> <FRAME SRC="main.html" NAME="main"> <NOFRAMES> <BODY> Here is where you should copy all the HTML code for what I have named main.html. Be sure that you have all your navigational links to the rest of the site also in here for the search engines to follow. </BODY> </NOFRAMES> </FRAMESET> </HTML>
Forgot to add: Search engines are such a fraud anyway.
paulselhi : I considered an image map, but I thought that by clicking on the map would skip to a product thus missing my opening page and message.
TERRELL : I used a different scheme on the left just to vary the look and add more 50's decor. Why not, it's a frame in it's own. I know from your past posts that you are not a fan of frames. Frames are an easy navagational tool for a beginner. What other navagational tool would you suggest then??? As far as not getting indexed, that is why I put the meta tag on my non frames cover page. Is this not a good way to get around that?
muijefr: I know nothing of meta tags. I used a meta tag generator found in the PowWeb resources section. I used what it spit out. Thanks for letting me know it was not correct.
nomopbo
Originally posted by nomopbo
TERRELL : I used a different scheme on the left just to vary the look and add more 50's decor. I know from your past posts that you are not a fan of frames. Frames are an easy navagational tool for a beginner. What other navagational tool would you suggest then??? As far as not getting indexed, that is why I put the meta tag on my non frames cover page. Is this not a good way to get around that?
nomopbo
I also used frames when I 1st started for its easy of navigation.Theirs SSI.Where you can have your navigational system flow from page 2 page without having to add your navi system page to page.SSI is widely used.It works the same as frames,but better.Here's a site that show you how to work SSI in 6 easy steps.http://www.pagehelper.com/tutorials/ssi.shtml:)
I know nothing of meta tags. I used a meta tag generator found in the PowWeb resources section. I used what it spit out. Thanks for letting me know it was not correct.
I did not mean to imply you are not using meta tags correctly. I just wanted to let Terrell know, though I don't know, there is a way to use frames and comply with web bots methods of garnering information about a site. And this is where I think search engines are very fraudulent. Pay your forty bucks a month and that particular search engine will rank you in it's top what ever it can. There are how many of these search engines. 10k, 20k, you name the number. But if you use search engines often, such as MSN, Goggle, Yahoo, very few rendered sites even have Hello in their Metas. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure how they got ranked (I think MSN calls them partners). And of the 10 or 20 thousands other search engines how many of those have you used. Me, none.
Theirs SSI.Where you can have your navigational system flow from page 2 page without having to add your navi system page to page.SSI is widely used.
SSI and frames navigational menus are not at all similar. You can navigate multiple pages from a frame menu but SSI requires you to have an SSI include for each page that requires navigational support. Fifty pages that need navigation, for a function as small as "home", requires fifty SSI includes. A frames menu requires only one (but you can have more than one if you please). You can navigate any number of pages from one frames menu. Frames menus handle hierarchal site structures in a breeze. SSI is a pain in the butt when used for/on hierarchal sites (I know this for a fact). Just ask me.
muijefr
I visited your site. I take it that is an example of SSI navagation?
nomopbo
I have a cable modem... Could someone with a 56k tell me if my opening page is painfully slow opening? It has 2 animated gif's (girl and welcome) a java scroller, and since I added the meta tags it opens with some annimation. (different every time, left to right, center to edges, circle and what have you)
Thanks for all the tips! I'm learning a lot from you guru's.
Nomopbo
I visited your site. I take it that is an example of SSI navagation?
Do you have me confused with Terrell of what. I don't know what part of my site you looked at but yes I use SSI on all pages that require navigation support but I do not use it as an alternative to frames. I use it as a clerical function to copy a given bunch of code into various documents. My navigation floats from page to page using iFrame and OverLib. At one time I used frames exclusively and I would never use SSI rather than frames. SSI is to site navigation as copy is to cute and paste. Hope this answers your question.
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