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middleground
1-24-02, 05:52 PM
Just to note for all persons- question for PowWeb support:
If you were provided a somewhat reasonable procedure for sucessfully installing some of the popular php driven programs (phpMyAdmin, Nuke, etc.), would you post it in the FAQ (or some stable place) ?
It seems there are so many duplicate threads in here pertaining to these issues. Why doesn't the "community" pull together and document some of this stuff. Without some good guidance- most people are just going to go elsewhere for their hosting.
sophiespo
1-25-02, 12:16 AM
Middleground,
Ive actually decided to document the installation for phpMyAdmin and Nuke, along with other popular scripts... I have told Starr about this but only a few days ago. I was going to set up a site for it. If anyone thinks they can help, just let me know. Ive got Nuke covered, though. Im a Nuke veteran now!! :P
sophie
middleground
1-25-02, 12:26 AM
Excellent idea.
I would consider doing phpMyAdmin- but I still get errors on some things, and get function 100%.
Only I think it would be in PowWeb interests to have info available from this site. For me- the CGI php is reason enough to go elsewhere (even if $2 more a month), as I already moved one site because of it- it just isn;t worth the hassle sometimes.
SimCoWeb
1-29-02, 12:29 AM
Sophie, let me know if I can help. I've got lots of room on my site for that kind of info and could always post in the new PHPNuke section that Sophie's The Bomb! helped set up! :D
It's an article i'd like to post anyway. Or, we could create a special thread here but keeping it visible would be the trick. However you'd like to do it let me know if I can help :)
The Bomb, I say!!
sophiespo
1-29-02, 02:05 AM
The Bomb Speaks:
*lol*
SimCoWeb, I was going to ask you if you wanted to help anyway. I figured we would get you, our resident Ikonboard expert, to write up some how-tos. If youve got space on your site for it, GREAT! Thats kinda what I was worried about, Im not sure how much space I have left, although Im sure between us we'd have a fair bit. Sounds like this is the kinda thing everyone could do with, what with the confusion of that #$%*& php line .. amongst other things :p
sophie
SimCoWeb
1-29-02, 02:55 AM
Okie dokie. Let's collaborate on how we wish to do this. Obviously i've got loads of room in the new section on my site. Or, if we write some FAQ's that maybe Starr would post in their FAQ section.
Either way, what we would need is just a URL we can refer future threads to regarding the subject.
How do you want to work this out? I'm also going to put together a tutorial on using 'includes' in Front Page instead of using the navbars since that's also been a popular subject.
middleground
1-29-02, 05:42 AM
Hi guys,
I have room to spare also amongst my sites, I have a webmaster play site ( www.mywebthing.com ) that woud be perfect for this type of thing.
Let me know what I can do also- :)
My only concern is that is PowWeb doesn't put it in the FAQ- may be hard to keep it visible.
sophiespo
1-29-02, 07:16 AM
I read a post by an admin once that said if some good and easy to follow how-tos were written they would be included in the FAQs. Otherwise, we could just post a thread in the cgi and php forums and stick it so it wont disappear... Then people could see it all the time. I dont think it would be a bad thing if these how-tos were on a site, in the FAQ and a stuck message in these forums as well. There would be no way it would be missed!! :p
I had another idea for it but I honestly CANNOT remember... Oh, there was a post in the Domain Names and DNS forums that made it possible for us to have subdomains, I think It might be worth putting that in there too... a lot of people have been wanting it. It seems to work too.
So shall we just write these how-tos then? Then figure out where to put them, etc? Ive got nuke well and truly covered.
sophie
Originally posted by sophiespo
I had another idea for it but I honestly CANNOT remember... Oh, there was a post in the Domain Names and DNS forums that made it possible for us to have subdomains, I think It might be worth putting that in there too... a lot of people have been wanting it. It seems to work too.
I've seen this feature on other boards running vBulliten where they make a post 'sticky' so it's always at the top. I haven't seen any sticky posts here so I am wondering if this forum has the ability or just not thought about using it....
sophiespo
1-29-02, 08:56 AM
These forums have sticky ability. Theres a sticky post in the before signing up forum, i think. Besides, I have a little admin drop down box that has a "make thread sticky" option, although I havent tried it yet.
sophie
middleground
1-31-02, 08:50 PM
Hi all,
I don't think this was one of the items on the todo list, but someone from PowWeb was on OpenBB forums wanting to install. I was able to do so.
Can check it out here (http://www.cahsalumni.com/openbb/)
Directions as follows:
OpenBB on PowWeb notes:
- Unzip locally, add
#!/usr/local/bin/php
to the top line of each of the following files:
board.php
cp.php
cp_avatars.php
cp_email.php
cp_forums.php
cp_image.php
cp_members.php
cp_templates.php
cp_usergroup.php
cp_users.php
member.php
moderator.php
myhome.php
post.php
read.php
search.php
index.php
setup.php
- SQLData.php-
I filled this in before upload, which I forgot it would do that.
- Upload everything.
- Set everything to chmod 755
My ftp (GoLive) will do a recursive chmod, so I just clicked the
openBB folder, checked recursive, 755 and change.
This makes everything 755 to start.
- Then chmod: sqldata.php to 777
- Then chmod:
/images again I did recursive so everything in dir to 777
/avatars again I did recursive so everything in dir to 777
- Ran the setup.
I haven't run everything, so note the following:
- If the she-bang shows up at top- remove line from file is url.
- If server 500 add she-bang to the file.
PowWeb needs a good user-run support site where we could include answers to all the questions seen on the forums... that would be very helpful!
BTW: If somebody will start one I'd be glad to help :)
middleground
1-31-02, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by Jeff321
PowWeb needs a good user-run support site where we could include answers to all the questions seen on the forums... that would be very helpful!
BTW: If somebody will start one I'd be glad to help :)
Yes, an uncensored one.
I got bandwidth to burn- and subdomains a plenty.
Pick a board and give me a weekend:
1. Open BB RC2
2. phpBB2 RC1
3. XMB 1.5 RC1.5 (still sort of buggy)
4. Ultraboard (still works for me on my site)
Just let me know :)
SimCoWeb
1-31-02, 10:19 PM
I'd be happy to. We could easily move and expand some of these topics for open display on my PHPNuke module at my main site. It would have to be more of an 'article' based 'how-to' kinda thing.
If you're interested in contributing let me know :)
The only one of those I'm familar with is UltraBoard, which I don't really like. So, I suppose you should pick, whatever you think will work best :)
SimCoWeb, I think it's an awesome idea. Would you set up something like that for us to contribute to?
SimCoWeb
1-31-02, 11:00 PM
Certainly! What I can do is set up whoever wants to contribute as an 'Editor' and provide login and editor capabilities to post articles and such.
Sophie and I have discussed this issue a few times. Since she's the bomb we'll definitely need her there!
Perhaps a one or two others and we'd have most of the issues covered. I've got plenty of room on the site and the PHPNuke area is well suited for it, fer sure!
Thanks a million!
I'd definatly like to help, even though I know almost nothing about PHP. I could write about almost anything else--HTML, JavaScript, CGI installs & configuration, OPS settings, e-mail, FTP, whatever :) I think a subdomain how-to would be a good start. Maybe I'll get started :D
sophiespo
2-1-02, 12:27 AM
middleground... OpenBB is a great bbs! I was in the middle of customizing it before I decided to switch to Nuke (again).. very customizable!!
SimCoWeb, can my login be TheBomb ?? hehehe.. :p
I am going to do the nuke & nuke modules, addons etc how-to, I can do phpMyAdmin as well, and virtually any other cgi or php script. PLUS, there is a thread going in the Domain Names & DNS forum I think we should include: creating subdomains. It seems this is a MAJOR feature most people are interested in, and it works!!! So Ill write the instructions up for that too, so it can be included.
I also had an idea, there should be a requesting system on the site thats going to have the how-tos.. so people can request the how-to for a particular script. OR they can just post in here. Either way.
sophie
middleground
2-1-02, 06:05 AM
OK guys- seems everyone wants to host this. Doesn't matter to me. I just have a bunch of unused bandwidth.
My offering would be a dedicated forum, under a subdomain of my site. I'd set it up, but would need help with moderators and advice people. Whatever you guys would like to do.
To see the boards I mentioned- checkout the testing menu (left column) on my site (http://www.mywebthing.com). Links to the developers forums are here (http://www.mywebthing.com/mod.php?mod=userpage&menu=1300&page_id=6)
Good to see the interest in such a thing. :)
middleground
2-1-02, 09:12 AM
Hey guys/gals, some questions:
- Forum subdomain- what are some preferred items
powweb? powhelp? pow (i like), or whatever.
My domain is mywebthing.com so- pow.mywebthing.com??
- List of Categories / Forums- I can get this setup tonight. Some help on Categories / Forums would help.
- I think phpBB2 is the best choice (OpenBB just shy in a few places). Please checkout a test install here (http://www.mywebthing.com/phpBB2/index.php) and comment- either here or there.
Unless I hear otherwise- I'll go with pow.mywebthing.com and phpBB2. If all decide something else- I'll blow it away.
Just a note- I have a parked domain: AGeekForum.com that I can redirect is anyone likes that better (or AGeekSite.com or AGeekThing.com)
sophiespo
2-1-02, 10:04 AM
hey :)
i think something like powhelp.mywebthing.com seeing as it is a help site for powweb users. Unfortunately Im trying to click on your link to phpBB and it keeps coming up saying it cannot find the server. This happened to me when I tried tp install it, not a huge fan of phpBB. Anyway if you get it going, Ill be a moderator! I like this moderating gig :) *EDIT* I can get to your phpBB page, but not with that link you posted before. Only with http://www.mywebthing.com/phpBB2/ */EDIT*
Anyway, Ive written the Nuke install guide, its for versions 5.3.1 AND 5.4, reads quite easily and includes a troubleshooting/faq type bit at the bottom. Whoevers going to be hosting the tutorials, please let me know so I can email it to you. Its just a plain text file, I cant just post it here because its long. I mean LONG.
Ill write one for subdomains, and I will be writing a "PHP-Nuke themes explained" type article.. plus the modules, etc. I can also write up the install tutorial for phpMyAdmin too.
Middleground, you should add a forum especially for requests and one for tutorial mistakes.. Maybe like this:
General Tutorial Forums (category)
-- Comments (forum)
-- Requests (forum)
-- Bug Report (forum)
sophie
middleground
2-1-02, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by sophiespo
hey :)
i think something like powhelp.mywebthing.com seeing as it is a help site for powweb users.
powhelp.mywebthing.com it is.
Unfortunately Im trying to click on your link to phpBB and it keeps coming up saying it cannot find the server. This happened to me when I tried tp install it, not a huge fan of phpBB. Anyway if you get it going, Ill be a moderator! I like this moderating gig :) *EDIT* I can get to your phpBB page, but not with that link you posted before.
My site just had a hiccup, I couldn't get to it either- should be OK now. The main reason I think phpBB2 over OpenBB is the ability to post code in topics (using bbcodes)- I thought that would be important?? - Openbb doesn't do that yet.
Anyway, Ive written the Nuke install guide, its for versions 5.3.1 AND 5.4, reads quite easily and includes a troubleshooting/faq type bit at the bottom. Whoevers going to be hosting the tutorials, please let me know so I can email it to you. Its just a plain text file, I cant just post it here because its long. I mean LONG.
Ill write one for subdomains, and I will be writing a "PHP-Nuke themes explained" type article.. plus the modules, etc. I can also write up the install tutorial for phpMyAdmin too.
Excellent
Middleground, you should add a forum especially for requests and one for tutorial mistakes.. Maybe like this:
General Tutorial Forums (category)
-- Comments (forum)
-- Requests (forum)
-- Bug Report (forum)
I shall make it so number one :)
Keep feeding me info- maybe I can sneak this up shortly, and conversation can transfer to there.
Thanks again to all for this, I think it will help out a bunch.
middleground
2-1-02, 10:33 AM
A thought- For documentation / tutorials:
Has anyone used Drupal (I have a test setup http://blog.mywebthing.com/ ), one of the features is a nice collaborative online "book". Index, chapters, etc.
Seems like a good fit.
Any thoughts???
sophiespo
2-1-02, 10:49 AM
that sounds like a good way to go for the tutorials and such. It looks all right, too. I dont mind. What does everyone else think?
sophie
I like the direction that all of this is going. One thing I think you can implement somewhere in a FAQ, etc. is:
for new users, list the major uses of some of the different popular features/services (i.e. mySQL, PHPNuke, PHPAdmin just to name a few) that are available to use.
I kept hearing people talking about PHPNuke and it took me alot of searching to find out exactly what it was and what it was used for.
So I think it would be cool to list something topics (like mySQL) and list what exactly it is/does and list ways that people use it and incorporate it into their website.
I think their are a vast supply of tools out there, and it would be nice to show how various users make use of them, so other people can find a way to incorporate them into their own sites and projects.
:)
Sophie (a.k.a. The Bomb!)
If you would, send me over the Nuke install guide you wrote. You did such a great job with me that I KNOW it's gotta be good! I'll post it on my site as an experiement and see how it works for this game plan we're developing. Then, get some feedback from our participants here.
I'll also post some Front Page stuff there that we can post in that forum.
middleground, i'm not familiar with Drupal. It looks very similar to PHPNuke and PostNuke. Is it a PHP program? And, do you have a link to their site?
Thanks, all!
middleground
2-1-02, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by sophiespo
that sounds like a good way to go for the tutorials and such. It looks all right, too. I dont mind. What does everyone else think?
sophie
Do have some other themes, I haven't checked them all out.
Originally posted by sophiespo
middleground, i'm not familiar with Drupal. It looks very similar to PHPNuke and PostNuke. Is it a PHP program? And, do you have a link to their site?
Drupal is primarily a WebLog, I only mentioned it because of the collaborative book thing (which I never thought useful until now), so if seems silly- OK. The limited forum could cover the Tutorial Request, Comments, Bug Reports??. And the News feeds are available. I never thought it would stand up as a full blown CMS site though. (I have a different theme on http://blog.lansberry.net )
Link is Drupal.org (http://www.drupal.org/)
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As for forum- it is at least up. I'll do some quick tweaking to get started, then gotta try to make like I am working for a little :). I'll get at more this evening. Should be able to start registering.
Check it out here (http://powhelp.mywebthing.com/)
:)
Hey, I said I would write the subdomain tutorial! However if you want to that's fine with me. I can do something else.
sophiespo
2-3-02, 12:44 AM
Im sorry, I must have missed the post saying youd write it.. Ive written it now.. Also Im in the middle of writing the phpMyAdmin one too.... thats all for now though, you have first dibs on anything else :)
sophie
middleground
2-4-02, 12:17 PM
Quick note on displaying docs- I found a program call Doc Juggler,
And did a quick install / tweak- let me know what you think.
Can see it here (http://powhelp.mywebthing.com/dj/).
Sophiespo:
If you want to see the admin interface, let me know and I'll email link / pword.
Hello All.
Sophie was so gracious to send the install and setup info for PHP Nuke for Powweb servers. Let's give Sophie a hand :D
I have posted the installations instructions for everyone to view in my PHPNuke section of my site. Here's the direct link to the article.
PHP NUKE INSTALLATION GUIDE
http://www.simcoweb.com/nuke/article.php?sid=7
sophiespo
2-4-02, 09:19 PM
middleground that looks quite good!
SimCoWeb, I need to add one or two lines to that install guide.. shall I just email it to you?
sophie
Certainly, Sophie. But what I SHOULD do is set you up as an 'editor' so you can do those things. Shall I?
sophiespo
2-4-02, 10:02 PM
Yeah, do that :)
sophie
middleground
2-4-02, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by sophiespo
middleground that looks quite good!
sophie
The Doc Juggler?? Thanks, It has some possibilites...but I still don't like "mixing" apps- just unprofessional (I think).
Also- another test- see
http://powhelp.mywebthing.com/viewtopic.php?t=5
I am just seeing what it can do....
Please let mme know your thoughts
The last time I was at the Ultraboard site there was NO help and NO way to get into the site. I even tried other avenues and still no luck. The technical support (at the time I was using Ultraboard) was practically non-existant. I even tried purchasing another license and could not get in to update.
REMINDER - I am an isolated incident. I have not heard much negative feedback on Ultraboard so I might have gotten them at a bad time.
As far as the PHP Portals (vbportals) and vBulletin...boy do I have some help here. I really hashed some of the major issues out with the persons running both boards. I have a minor issue now with vPortals but will post my findings and explain in great detail how to load both!
Kehfera
The Dowsers Network (http://www.dowsers.net/)
(board not live yet and still have the one issue...keep pressing the refresh key)
middleground
2-5-02, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Kehfera
The last time I was at the Ultraboard site there was NO help and NO way to get into the site. I even tried other avenues and still no luck. The technical support (at the time I was using Ultraboard) was practically non-existant. I even tried purchasing another license and could not get in to update.
REMINDER - I am an isolated incident. I have not heard much negative feedback on Ultraboard so I might have gotten them at a bad time.
No- you are not isolated- the entire project died- naturally after I paid for it ($40). But I still use it on mywebthing.com because it works great (IMHO), does the MySQL thing and is CGI. I have another one running a on my Alumni site on Powweb.
As for getting information- one must do some time travel via WebArchive- The Wayback Machine (http://www.archive.org).
An example of the UB2K site can be seen here (http://web.archive.org/web/20010602035835/support.ub2k.com/manual/) (and yes even the annoying popup work). Might be able to pick another month without ads.
As for support- I have yet to need any, which is good since there is none.
Originally posted by Kehfera
As far as the PHP Portals (vbportals) and vBulletin...boy do I have some help here. I really hashed some of the major issues out with the persons running both boards. I have a minor issue now with vPortals but will post my findings and explain in great detail how to load both!
Kehfera
The Dowsers Network (http://www.dowsers.net/)
(board not live yet and still have the one issue...keep pressing the refresh key)
Excellent
:)
middleground
2-7-02, 09:13 AM
Hello folks,
Seems the steam behind this has fizzled???
Still an interest??
sophiespo
2-7-02, 11:11 AM
Im still interested! Ive had a very busy week is all! :(
The formatting looked good in the forum on your site, except it deleted something.. at the very end where it said the #! line has to be the first line followed by the <? it deleted the <?
Maybe html was disabled? And it thought <? was a tag?
sophie
I am still interested and would like to help in any way that I can. What is something else that could be done to add to this project? Give me some ideas of something I could help with and I will see what I can do.:)
middleground
2-7-02, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by sophiespo
at the very end where it said the #! line has to be the first line followed by the <? it deleted the <?
Maybe html was disabled? And it thought <? was a tag?
sophie
I copied the text from Simco's posting, and it was cut-off there also. I set you up as an admin Sophie- you can edit it if you like, or just let me know what it should say.
Sorry- I reread and will fix it....
Perhaps we should start a new thread with just the links to the PHP Nuke installation? That way it won't get buried in the middle of the posts.
Ya think?
Is someone still working on the phpMyAdmin documentation? I remember it mentioned earlier that someone wanted to do it. I ask because I am planning on installing it on my site in the coming week, and I could take good notes while I do it.
middleground
2-7-02, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by SimCoWeb
Perhaps we should start a new thread with just the links to the PHP Nuke installation? That way it won't get buried in the middle of the posts.
Ya think?
Excellent idea Simco, would be nice to have Powweb add a forum for "Installation Issues"- Since you and Sophie are mods- could keep a topic that only mods can edit. That way Powweb at least gives it a stable link, but doesn't have to do the work.
VBman- I think Sophie is working on it.
I do have a question on the Nuke Install- Sophie mentioned (2) files that need the line, and one will end up with it being printed out some times.
My question (and some research may be required)- Can those files be copied, and the copy extension be called .inc?
Then in the files that are .inc the line would not be needed. This would of course require modifying all files that had this as a required file (might not be to bad).
I just can't imagine a customer wanting the line showing up now and then. (Folks- in case you hadn't noticed- I'm a freak about the little things :) )
Hey, Sophie, I'd like to read your article on subdomains. Is it online yet?
The files that need the line are called directly by the browser. Therefore, they shouldn't be renamed to .inc
The .inc's are ok as is.
I seem to recall that, even though Sophie mentioned 2 files needing the line, that I had to add it to a third. And for the life of me I can't remember what the third one was. You'll find it, though, when you test all the links from your main page after installation.
middleground, that's a good suggestion on contacting Starr to open a new topic for the installs. That way these good threads won't get buried. :D
sophiespo
2-8-02, 06:17 PM
Ive actually had an idea about those files that show the #! line on the page.. I will work on it today. I am pretty sure I can fix it.
Jeff, Ill put the finishing touches on the article, Ive been very busy *sigh* Ill have it done today.
sophie
middleground
2-8-02, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by SimCoWeb
The files that need the line are called directly by the browser. Therefore, they shouldn't be renamed to .inc
The .inc's are ok as is.
I didn't mean rename them- I meant copy them first, and rename the copies to the inc extension- then modiy the include statements with the new extension. The originals would have the #!.... line, and the copies renamed *.inc would not.
If the line shows up- doesn't that mean it was included by something after the headers were already sent??
I was thinking those files are possibly called by both- the browser and by include.
sophiespo
2-8-02, 08:35 PM
those two files ARE called by the browser AND included as well, but I think I have a solution. Ill post it if it works, It involves some changing the code somewhere too, but it shouldnt be too hard.
sophie
sophiespo
2-8-02, 08:51 PM
1) Open comments.php and pollcComments.php, take out the #!/usr/local/bin/php line and save them as comments.inc.php and pollcomments.inc.php respectively. Upload them to the same directory as comments.php and pollcomments.php
2) Open article.php Go to line 270 and change it from include("comments.php"); to include("comments.inc.php"); Upload it.
3) Open pollBooth.php Go to line 36 and change it from include("pollcomments.php"); to include("pollcomments.inc.php"); Upload it.
4) Check it out! It should be working now.
sophie
4) Check it out! It should be working now.
YES!!!!!!!! That does work. BRILLIANT!
Thanks for the work around! Now I see a "light" and it is very nice indeed.
hotrats
I seem to recall that, even though Sophie mentioned 2 files needing the line, that I had to add it to a third. And for the life of me I can't remember what the third one was. You'll find it, though, when you test all the links from your main page after installation.
That would be the "submit.php" file. This file was not included on the list.
hotrats
That's the one! Nice work, hotrats
And Sophie!
Sophie's the Bomb!
middleground
2-10-02, 12:20 AM
Excellent work to all :)
I edited the tutorial on the forum here (http://powhelp.mywebthing.com/viewtopic.php?t=5).
Sophie (and all) please review and see if to your liking.
I put in text for submit.php mods- if anyone comes up with them- please advise and I'll make the change.
Thanks again everyone.
Also- Our thread is getting kinda long here. Should we start a new one, or move to PowHelp forum??
sophiespo
2-10-02, 08:36 AM
Why does submit.php need mods?? I cant see the #! line show up on the submit.php page like the comments..!! Otherwise Id help ya!
This thread is getting kinda long, isn't it.. I think we should move it to middlegrounds phpBB, and close this one off. We can post new threads in these forums when we have new tutorials, anyway.
Unless there are any objections, Ill close this off!
sophie
sophiespo
2-10-02, 08:45 AM
Consider this thread closed.. this is a just a *very* long discussion between us about the tutorial help site, so we may as well move it to the tutorial help site and leave room for PowWeb customers to get help on other PHP issues!! :p SO, we can continue this very same thread here (http://powhelp.mywebthing.com/viewtopic.php?p=7#7).
sophie
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