PHP 5? MySQL?

[netaustin]

I read the changelog for PHP 5.0 beta, and it seems as if they're taking away the bundled mySQL libraries (big news, big enough to change the title of this section of the forum eventually).

Also, I heard something about the mySQL licensing structure changing soon...

Seems as if the open source world is changing... so far this year: mySQL allies with SAP to merge its code with SAP DB and loses its PHP library, and Caldera thinks it "owns" the unix kernel.

-sigh-

[NMS]

I hate these drastic changes. You take months/years to prepare a website which will come obsolete with software upgrades. Anyway if it wasn't like this we would be still using ascii programming

[RocketJeff]

It's not going to be that big of a deal - when Powweb upgrades to Php5, they'll just need to download/install the mySQL support separately. It's just that due to licensing, they can't bundle mySQL support in the main package. This shouldn't impact any Powweb users.

Again this isn't a big deal - nothign will be obsolete (although there will be reprogramming needed because of other changes with Php 5).

Also, I really like the SQLite database that will now be bundled with PHP.

[irasmith]

Perhaps I'm incorrect in this observation, and if so then please let me know as I don't like making plans on faulty information.

I thought the overall goal of PHP5 was to enchance the object oriented features and through the use of PEAR DB libraries be able to allow the programmer to write code that would work with various vendors SQL engines.

I've been looking at the information on Amazon for the Beginning PHP4 Databases (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1861007825/ref=cm_wl_ovu-pg.1-pos.3/102-0826637-2781728?v=glance&coliid=I32JW7DBLXX9VV&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER) book, as well as other references I haven't bookmarked, and it all leads me to the same conclusion.

I suppose my main question would be when powweb would plan to migrate toward PHP5 and what sort of lead-time notice would we have before that migration happened in order for us to prepare for the shift.

Until then I'll start learning what I can of PHP5 as material becomes available.
Ira

[RocketJeff]

I'm only a customer, but I'd be willing to bet a large amount of money that Powweb (and every other decent hosting company) will offer both Php4 and Php5 (and probably Php3) - just like they now offer both Php3 and Php4.

There are way too many Php4/Php3 scripts that would break if hosting companies decided to switch enmass to Php5 without leaving Php4 around.

[irasmith]

That sounds like a very cool way of handling things. Actually, I wasn't even aware powweb provided php3 since my php beginnings came with 4 and I've been working with it.

I'll keep an open eye for any announcements they make as that solution, if offered, would provide an easy migration path for those of us eyeball deep in version 4 code.
Ira

[El Diablo]

PHP and MySQL... the dynamic duo at last. :D