Best content managment package?

[lukeski]

Okay, I think I need to bite the bullet and actually install a content managment package for one of the projects I am working on. I have avoided them thus far, but it sounds like the best fit for what I am doing.

So, I am just seeking advice as to which package people have had the best experience with (phpnuke, postnuke, etc.). Any information would be helpful. I have installed phpnuke and it works okay, but I don't want to do a lot of customizing and then deciede postnuke is better.

[irasmith]

Well, I suppose 'best' is just determined by your needs and what you feel comfortable with.

PHP-Nuke has been around longer and therefore has more features wrapped up as part of its core product. Meaning you don't have to do as much research and searching to find the modules you want or need. So if you are in a time crunch or hate research then this might be the better choice for you.

Post Nuke is the newer product and has less features at its core but that does not mean it is bad. I personally found Post Nuke to be the one I wanted to go with and that is what I use on my site.

To assist those who might want to go the route of a content management system, I have put together a resource page on my site that documents each module I use and includes links to the home page from whence it came. You can find the resource page (http://www.irarichardsmith.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=9&page=1) right here. I keep it current as I add and remove modules so it should be an accurate reflection of the options you see on my site. As of the specific moment I write this reply, there is one item not on the listing since I just completed adding it this evening and right now am too sleepy to edit the list, and that is the recipe module. I will be, however, updating the listing tomorrow (Sunday during the day, not the wee hours of the morning it is here now in Tennessee).

I do not claim to have all the available modules for Post Nuke on my site. Rather these are just the ones that I need right now and am working with. There are plenty others to select from that do all sorts of things.

You might want to go direct to the source also, Post Nuke Home Page (http://www.postnuke.com) and click on the Modules Link. Do some searches there for the types of things you might need to see if it exists, if it is a finished product, or if it is something in beta.

Hope this helps out and if you have other questions let me know. I'm learning more of post nuke every day and loving it.

[BAD-ASS-CJ]

I use nuke, you can see my site here (http://www.sweetquads.com) Its got qite a few mods to it. There are a TON of sites where you can find add-ons and hacks for nuke(and im sure postnuke as well) I looked into Postnuke before i started my site and it just seemed like there was lot more options for nuke than post.

[quark-man]

go here (http://www.cmsinfo.org/) for a list of Commercial + OpenSource Content Management Systems >>

Aegir CMS
AIOCP
APC ActionApps
AppWrap
Ariadne
Author CMS
AWF
Back-End
Bitflux
BolinOS
Bricolage
C-Arbre
CallistoCMS
CAMPSITE
CMS Community
CMS Resources
Cofax
DCP-Portal
Devel CMS
Dixit
Drupal
e107
Easy Publisher
Edit-X
eNetwizard
Envolution
Esy
eZ publish
FeedStream
Geeklog
HardCore
Home
Krysalis
Lenya
Mambo
Managee
MAROTORI
Mason
Mason-CM
mCubes
Metadot
Midgard
miniPortail
MMBase
myPHPNuke
MySource
Nucleus
Nuxeo
OpenCMS
OpenEffect
Pagetool
Peerthought
PHPNuke
PHPortal
PHProjekt
phpSlash
phpWebSite
Plone
pMachine
PostNuke
Redhat CCM
Roller
SAEBR
Site Executive
Siteframe
SiteSage
Slash
SnipSnap
SSR
TeamSmith
Tiki
ttCMS
TWiki
Typo3
Web500
Webgenerator-X
WebGUI
Xaraya
Xoops
Zope



or check this (http://www.opensourcecms.com/) out for a list of OpenSource Content Management Systems.

i personally went for PHP-Nuke, because that was the most widely participated OpenSource portal around (back then..hehe).
but now, PostNuke, GeekLog and few others are definitely gaining plenty of momentum.


ultimately, it's your style, content, administration, price, scalability needs that will need to be addressed.


ciao.

[Mirzabah]

I used PHPNuke for a while for a band site I was running for some friends, but got sick of it and a few weeks ago it fell over on me for no readily apparent reason. I switched to Mambo OS (http://mamboserver.com) and am very happy with it. It was much easier to set up and customise than Nuke. The site in question is here (http://prayerbabies.com).

Cheers,
Mirzabah.

[bosanac]

I've tried using PHP-Nuke, Post-Nuke, and Mambo Server.. For me PHP-Nuke worked the best since i was able to find all the modules I would ever need.. and there's billions of themes availible out there.. If you choose to go with PHP-Nuke here's some helpful links:

For PHP-Nuke Modules & Fixes: http://www.nukecops.com

For PHP-Nuke themes (I think these guys are the best): http://www.nukemods.com

[TJx2]

I tried php-nuke for a bit and was able to crash it by changing user themes pretty quick. i now am using post nuke on all my sites and it has been very stable.

[jasonb]

I use to use PHP nuke but I think its best for people that know php already...

I am currently setting up phpwebsite, I'll let you know what I think of it...

[BrandonMiller]

is setting one up tough for someone who has never touched any php stuff?

Here is my site RiverCityRockCrawlers.com (http://www.rcrc4x4.com/index.html)

I run Yabb, I imagine the "php suites" have their own board so I'd have to start over there.

Any limitations with powweb I should know about?

thanks!!

[irasmith]

Actually, if you have worked with your account here on powweb enough to install the message board you are running, then really I would think you would be quite able to handle using a content management system on powweb. You seem to have the 'nack' for handling technical things and really installing and setting up a content management system is not any more difficult than setting up a message board.

You can take a look at my site if you wish, just click on the web icon at the bottom of my posting to be taken to it. I'm a programmer by trade and so my site reflects that. I don't do pop up ads or banner ads or other things like that.

Depending on what you want to do and how much research you want to do on your own will in part determine what type of content management system you go with.

On my site, this link is a listing of resources (http://www.irarichardsmith.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=9&page=1) that are the sources of the components I have so far used to create the site that you see.

I use the Post Nuke content management system. Since it is the newer of the 'nukes' you do have to do some research to find various modules since the core of the system is found on the main Post Nuke (http://www.postnuke.com) site and the rest is found at the various developers sites.

One reason for me putting my resource listing together is to make it easier for others seeking to use Post Nuke but don't want to do the research.

Yes, there is a message board for Post Nuke as well, its a modified version of the phpBB2 board called pnPHPBB2. In the resource list above you will find a link to the home page of the message board where you can look it over.

Hope this helps you out some.

[jasonb]

MAMBO MAMBO MAMBO!

It is the best. Seriously... the best!

http://www.mamboserver.com/

Easy to use, easy to do everything... just great, loads fast than phpnuke too and looks 1000 times nicer!

[quark-man]

if PostNuke is still in development, and a "real stable" release, then what what is "eNvolution" ?
is the OpenSource GPL-ed version of PostNuke, or is it some bunch of breakaway, renegade programmers building their own CMS.


here is a snippet from the eNvolution (http://www.envolution.com) website >>

While eNvolution is a fork of PostNuke, the entire core of the product is being replaced and improved, making it far more secure and stable, and able to work in high-volume environments with ease.

[irasmith]

PostNuke, as well as PHPNuke and just about all the other members of the 'nuke' family that I have heard of or seen are all Open Source GPL packages.

eNvolution, by stating it is a fork of PostNuke, would be based on the PostNuke code base but then with other things added in or modified in some way.

In the Open Source world, when you see something that says it is a 'fork' of a product, that means that at least initially it started out with the same code base as the other product and then as time progressed and the programmers worked on it, the core code was eventually replaced or reduced with their own core code.

I have not done any research on eNvoution as by the time I hit on PostNuke I really saw it could do the things I wanted and desired and so I never had a need to go beyond that. So I can't say about the actual experience with eNvolution as I really have none. That doesn't mean it is a bad package, it just means I have not used it.

Hope this helps you out.

[beau]

I've reviewed and installed a few CMSs, and I'm still baffled which one will work best.

here's my delimma - I want a CMT to most act like a site that I've already designed - www.funkmusician.com

There's not a LOT going on with the site, but I do want certain parts to be random - the logo - there's 4 of them that rotate out via javascript, and the reviews column on the right - it's hard-coded right now, but I'd LOVE to be able to add as many reviews as I want, and they rotate out randomly.

Beyond that, I just want a simple site, but one that's database driven so I don't have to re-do the entire site every month.

I know enough PHP and mySQL to install phpWebsite and mambo, but, beyond that, I honestly can't tell which one will best suit my needs.

phpWebsite hammers my articles when I include any html coding - and my articles include flash files. Augh.

Can anybody point me in a direction to help? I don't need 30 modules running on the page, just four, I spose - menu, body, and reviews, and the ten music files (not on the site yet).

HELP!

[YvetteKuhns]

I don't recommend Content Management stuff, because they are easily abused. But I can understand your need to make many updates in quick time. I found one in cgi that may be safer than Nuke which is commonly defaced. It is difficult to recover your website after that. I know all the people who use it will start complaining about this remark. Sorry. Just a warning.

As for your website currently, it is very enjoyable and my son loved the guitar chords. He said the music is better than what is on his games he is playing on the computer behind me! Very nice.

:)

[beau]

Can you tell me about the CGI version?

I still want to allow others to join and add comments to the articles - especially on articles where i KNOW i'm practically making stuff up (like the guitar chord names).

That's why the CMS is so attractive. I do understand about the succeptability to abuse issues with php/sql apps.

Thanks for your reply. I was starting to think I'd never get an answer.

[YvetteKuhns]

Look for "free perl content management script" on Google.

http://www.refdev.com/free_scripts/Perl/Content_Management/

I found a great one a few months ago for someone, but I don't remember the url. If I find it, I will let you know.

[YvetteKuhns]

http://cgi.resourceindex.com/Programs_and_Scripts/Perl/Editing_Web_Pages/index_02.html

Try looking at these, too. Darn it. That link was on the other hard drive that needs to be reformatted. I know I will recognize the site if I find it again. Oh well. Check these for now.

[macpark]

A friend gave me a link to the Midgard-project (CMS) so I decided to search on here for who is using it. Judging by this thread alone it looks like nobody is. Does anyone have any experience with it?

http://www.midgard-project.org/cms/

[do_u_see]

I love mambo, but if you want to set up a community, it\s better to use xoops....and mainfile.php status cannot change from 777to 444


go here (http://www.cmsinfo.org/) for a list of Commercial + OpenSource Content Management Systems >>

Aegir CMS
AIOCP
APC ActionApps
AppWrap
Ariadne
Author CMS
AWF
Back-End
Bitflux
BolinOS
Bricolage
C-Arbre
CallistoCMS
CAMPSITE
CMS Community
CMS Resources
Cofax
DCP-Portal
Devel CMS
Dixit
Drupal
e107
Easy Publisher
Edit-X
eNetwizard
Envolution
Esy
eZ publish
FeedStream
Geeklog
HardCore
Home
Krysalis
Lenya
Mambo
Managee
MAROTORI
Mason
Mason-CM
mCubes
Metadot
Midgard
miniPortail
MMBase
myPHPNuke
MySource
Nucleus
Nuxeo
OpenCMS
OpenEffect
Pagetool
Peerthought
PHPNuke
PHPortal
PHProjekt
phpSlash
phpWebSite
Plone
pMachine
PostNuke
Redhat CCM
Roller
SAEBR
Site Executive
Siteframe
SiteSage
Slash
SnipSnap
SSR
TeamSmith
Tiki
ttCMS
TWiki
Typo3
Web500
Webgenerator-X
WebGUI
Xaraya
Xoops
Zope



or check this (http://www.opensourcecms.com/) out for a list of OpenSource Content Management Systems.

i personally went for PHP-Nuke, because that was the most widely participated OpenSource portal around (back then..hehe).
but now, PostNuke, GeekLog and few others are definitely gaining plenty of momentum.


ultimately, it's your style, content, administration, price, scalability needs that will need to be addressed.


ciao.