Help I Am Stupid

[peachtreel1]

Would someone please help me and let me know that there are other people out there who do not do computerspeak but can still do their own webpages. I am soooo....frustrated! If someone can view my webpage and tell me what it is I am doing wrong I would greatly appreciate it. I need to know how to get my graphics back (explained in English please) and how to make my form work where the submit button will send information to my e-mail. I use FrontPage to publish now, but the site was originally designed using other software and I have been using WS_FTP Pro to publish up to this point. If someone can walk me through this step by step so I don't take a hammer to my computer I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

www.peachtreelegalnurse.com

[VBman]

As far as fixing that last image that isn't showing, you need to change the image tag

Here is what it is now for that last image:

<IMG height=66 hspace=0 loop=0
src="index_files/bda00006.gif" width=77 border=0>

You want it to be this:

<IMG height=66 hspace=0 loop=0
src="bda00006.gif" width=77 border=0>

Hope this helps. :)

I didn't see your submit button on the page or where to find it, so I couldn't check that out.:(

[peachtreel1]

Thanks VBman,

I'll try that. But I didn't design this site using html, so do I have to do that for every other image on my other pages? All the images on the other pages are not working as well.

If you click the peach image above the link that says "who are you", that will take you to the form where the submit button is that I wanted to find out about.

Is there no other way to fix the images other than html?

[VBman]

I checked one of your other pages where the images weren't loading, and it is looking in the wrong directory for your images.

For example, it was looking for one of the pictures in a folder called 'images' when the picture is really in the main folder:

Here's what it is now:
<img border="0" src="images/peach.jpg" width="192" height="258">

and it should be like this:
<img border="0" src="peach.jpg" width="192" height="258">

As far as fixing them, you can fix them in Frontpage, but I don't
use Frontpage, so I wouldn't be able to help you there. You
should be able to edit the HTML code from within Frontpage.
Other option is creating a folder and moving the images that
aren't showing so that they will show. Either way...


As far as fixing your submit button, you need to move the href from the submit's anchor tag and put it in the forms action.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Before:

Submit button:

<a href="mailto:lglnurse@bellsouth.net?subject=Who Are You Form Response"><input type="submit" value="Submit Comments"></a>


Form Tag:

<form method="POST" action="_derived/nortbots.htm"

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

After:

Submit button:

<input type="submit" value="Submit Comments">


Form Tag:

<form method="POST" action="mailto:lglnurse@bellsouth.net?subject=Who Are You Form Response"

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Hope this helps.
Sorry I can't help you with Frontpage. :( I used it once and hated it ever since.:mad:

[theleetbeagle]

Your last image is broken.

In your browser (either Internet Explorer or Netscape) you can right click on this broken image.

There you will see this:

http://www.peachtreelegalnurse.com/index_files/bda00006.gif

Your browser is looking for this image, but it isn't located there.

It is actually here:

http://www.peachtreelegalnurse.com/bda00006.gif

Because that is where your other images are. In hindsight, I see they're all the same images. You can fix this in Frontpage by clicking on the icon and changing the picture location.

I use Frontpage extensively. In fact my entire site is made with it. I don't know EVERYTHING about it, but I can help.

If your sendmail form is still broken, maybe you'll just want to make it entirely in Frontpage.

In Frontpage go to INSERT | FORM.

This will start a basic form. You can then add whatever fields you like. Press enter a few times in the field to give you some room to type. Then Go: INSERT | FORM | TEXTBOX or TEXTAREA

So you can go like:

Name: TEXTBOX
Subject: TEXTBOX
Message: TEXTAREA

SUBMITBUTTON RESETBUTTON

When you are done building your form. Right click on the submit button and click form properties. There you will see the option to send the results as e-mail with a field for an e-mail address.

There are a ton of other options, all with online help for the beginner.

You'll probably need Frontpage Extensions installed to use this, it's in http://ops.powweb.com

Here is one of my sendmail forms made with frontpage:

http://www.fornicorn.com/mail.htm

I made it pretty using tables and stuff, but you get the idea.

Hope it helps.

[theleetbeagle]

Oh, and screw writing in HTML. I respect VBman's stamina, but I can't stand writing code anymore, especially when there is something as powerful as FP2k2 lying around. Of course, I'm a pathetic wartskin, but what can you do?

Fear Microsoft.

NJK

[peachtreel1]

Thanks for the help guys, you all explained it better than anybody had so far. I'll try your suggestions and hopefully everything will work. If not, I'll repost and see if you guys can figure it out. Appreciate the advice. My hubby is a volunteer firefighter, so I like your signature!

Thanks.

[peachtreel1]

Okay guys,

I did what VB suggested and that worked to fix my images, but now somehow my initial image at the top of my homepage is screwed up. How do I fix this. I tried to use a new image using Microsoft Frontpage and tried saving the file and then uploading it via FTP, but that didn't work and it still looks like the screwed up image. What do I do now to fix this one? Thanks for the other advice, though, as it fixed stuff that I would have had no other idea how to fix. I've been trying for several days to get a straight logical explanation out of tech support. Please e-mail me when you can.

Can I use you guys for help again if I need it? You are very smart! Thanks.

[theleetbeagle]

This is what you need to do.

Open your index.htm(l) in Frontpage. At the bottom you'll see where it says

NORMAL HTML PREVIEW

when working with your web page.

Well, check that...I was going to say something else but now I think maybe not...

In NORMAL view do you get:

align=middle vspaBIG_PICTURE_OF_A_PEACHce=5 border=0>

If you do, just delete all of that, then insert the picture using frontpage by going INSERT | PICTURE | FROM FILES

If you don't see that anymore, you're set. If you didn't see that the first time you may need to go into HTML view and do this:

After Fuzzy" and before Kimberly delete everything.

Go back into NORMAL view and insert the photo using the same step as above.

Note: If you use this method you may need to fix some code using Front page, though.

Another thought:

Your index.htm is so simple (like I could spin that out in 30-45 seconds) you may just want to start from scratch and build it entirely with Frontpage.

You have three images (your background, your big peach, and your little peach) + some text.

If you want to do that, I would start uploading using Frontpage's WEB feature. Again, you'll need to install the Extensions that I talked about in my previous post. With this feature (I'm guessing you've never used it) you open your entire site in an expandable tree type deal and when you save files to your website there is no need to FTP, Frontpage does it for you.

Sidebar: If you want to continue to ask any of us for help, please feel free. In your case there are Frontpage-users and Frontpage-haters. I'm a user (ahem). I would stick with FP because 1) You're new and HTML is hard and 2) FP is actually very good if you stick to their rules...which you don't have to worry about quite yet.

Sidebar 2: Unless you start uploading a ton of images then stick with FP 100%. Images upload super slow so everyone uses FTP to upload images. Still use FP for the building/editing, though.

Oh, and tell the hubby to check my Firefighter News page. It's small now, but he can send me anything he wants me to add.

[SBGlasby]

I hope you don't mind...

I sent you an e-mail with the edited page code attatched...

That program you used originally, was notorious for bloating the code with propriertary tags.... much like "FP"....

I quit using FP a while baack... but I do remember issues... making pages with FP, then publishing with and FTP program is a big NO-NO....

If you look in the Folder on your computer, or on the server..... you'll see the Folders with "VTI"...ect..... these are updated on the server when you make a change to ths site.... If you upload with and FTP client... WSFTP... ect.... these folders are not updated.... and things.... especially Frontpage components... just don't want to work....

If you want to continue using FP, you need to contach support... to make sure server extensions are enabled on your site...
then use FP, to publish your site.... And YES... even the images... those VTI folders are for everything... including the images on your site... no big deal if all the images are in the same folder as the page.... but if you start making changes.... watch out....

If I remember right.... you just have to enter the same FTP information into the publishing settings in FP, as those you have on your FTP program.....

One fo the neat things I did like about FP... was when you deleted thing on your computer.... if those things were on the server.... it would see you haad deleted them... and ask if you waanted to delete them from the server as well....

Hope it works...

[theleetbeagle]

Peach:

Be wary of those offering advice that have "used" FP in the past. The gentlemen that left his comment above gave you some wrong advice. You CAN upload images with FP. It is literally 10-20x slower than if you upload them with an FTP program.

He is correct about the VTI folders. But, if you upload images in an FTP program, FP will find them later on and do it's "VTI" thing. You can use the photos in your web page any fashion you like after you upload them in an FTP program; which is absolutely the best way to upload images or mp3s, etc.

However, you should NOT delete anything in an FTP program unless you know exactly what you're doing. Leave that to FP.

I have a ton of images on my site, in a complex hierarchy of folders. If I had uploaded those in FP I would be an old, confused geriatric by the time it was complete. I uploaded them all in an FTP client in seconds.

Rock on.
NJK

[theleetbeagle]

Further, think about this:

Why do 90-99% of all web hosts support Microsoft Frontpage Extensions? Because they're used frequently. FP is the way to go. Everyone may love LINUX or hate MS, but Microsoft has the best suite of programs out there. Hands down.

And no, I'm not affiliated with them.

NJK

[Starr]

We support them because new users to the Internet (the majority) use them because they are easy to use and readily available w/ most MS Office suites (i.e. on most computers).

They are nothing but a problem for the host, both UNIX and Win32.

For those that ask “Why support them if they cause problems?”, about 50% of our users use one version of MS FP or another. If we didn’t support them, we would do 50% less business.

[SBGlasby]

Hey I'm not knocking FP, I think its a wondeful tool , especially for those who want sites' up quick and dirty.... or those that don't want the learning curve of let's say ......Dreamweaver....

I've been using Dreamweaver since 2.0, " I'm still finding new things I can do with Dreamweaver"....

But I found FP lacking in a lot of ways..... " didn't give a lot or artistic control" that's why I chose to not USE it..... As For Best... hands down... I do have to disagree.....

as for uploading with FTP..... yes you can do that.... but almost all service providers that offer FP extensions.... Warn against not doing this....... why? because it causes problems with the servers.... ie: extra resets...ect....

oh... yes... even POWWEB , request you to use FP to publish...
in th FAQ's...

http://www.powweb.com/faqs/?category=MS%20FrontPage&faq_id=20

Maybe one day.... MS.... will find a way fo fixing this bug.... yes it is a know bug.... but microsoft doesn't call it that... they call it proprietary language....

Like.... ASP....

Anyway,

I fixed her page... " it was a tagging issue", with an errant "TAG", seems FP... had a problem with the original software's proprietary tagging....

Have A Good One

FP.... forever....

[theleetbeagle]

Maybe I should check out this weaver of dreams. Of course notepad just locked up on me :|

NJK

[SBGlasby]

Notepad is a Microsoft Product....

ooooppppsss !!!!! they probably just bought out that company too..... and claimed it as their own.....

I actually prefer PFE32...... doens't add LFCR....

weaver of dreams.......
I went through 3 trial versions... before buying..... " I reload my test box"... about every 2 months anyway....

Unless you're willing to put in some serious time... to learn what it can do.... you might just stay with ........ FP !!!

[theleetbeagle]

mail me dreamweaver

[SBGlasby]

sure...............

and microsoft is ....... nevermind..... no I'll say it....

"OPENSOURCE"........ hope i don't get banned for using those words together in the same posting.......

U can buy like everyone else........ sorry... I don't share my license...

[theleetbeagle]

*shrug*

My purchasing cap for software is around $30. How much is DW?

NJK

[SBGlasby]

The upgrade version from frontpage..... "assuming" you have a valid ser#..... is only $199.00

if you want to.. or have to go Full Version.... it's $299.00

[Bud]

I have to agree with SBGlasby, Dreamweaver is a better program, at least from my perspective. I've used both, Dreamweaver does things that FP just can't do, especially in it's dynamic abilities. Plus you can write your own scripts and make DW behave just the way you like. Unlike MS that demands that YOU change to meet it's programs standards.

I may be a little biased because I'm certified in DW, but on the other hand I only use it a couple of times a year...I write all my code in NotepadEX (not MS).

For the beginner, FP is probably an easier program to use. And if it does what you need, that's all that really matters. :)

~bud

[SBGlasby]

I got away from notepad.... Started using PFE32

But once I hit DW..... it has a built in HTML editor..... Now I only use PFE32 on scripts..... and I have that set in the preferences ..

Anyway, You're Right abour FP, being great for beginners.... I bet if the truth be known.... " if people will admit to it", 75% of all web-designers started with FP.......

And if you're happy with it..... that IS all that matters...

[delvedesigns]

I started with Dream Weaver and then tried to learn FP. I hated FP, so I switched back...


good times.