Be Nice.............lol Any suggestion?

[railroadgrrl]

I put this together for a my pool group. Nothing fancy but I could always use hints. I'm fairly new to putting it together. I don't usually have music on the first page as it really annoys me but I thought I would get into the Halloween spirit for a few day. I would like to put a shout box or message board in the corner of it but i'm not sure how to go about it as I'm only familiar with frontpage. Any suggestions?

[Naveen]

For shoutout box or message board you'll need to find a script.

www.hotscripts.com should be helpful

Rest depends on how creative your are ... softwares like photoshop, fireworks, flash, dreamweaver etc will be helpful.


its better not to do your site in frames, it creates future problems mostly with search engines.

Once you are done ... give us the link for comments.

[(jj)]

Tis a bit hard to offer good suggestions without a link to your site :)

If you are going to use Front Page, try staying away from the standard templates, there are so many in use that sites are all starting to look the same these days.

[railroadgrrl]

Pool passion (http://www.poolpassion.com/)

LOL Tis true, it is very hard to critique what you can't see..............I could have sworn that I put the link somewhere but it didn't make it into my post. That's what I get for trying to do too many things at once............:eek:

Is there a tutorial possible that someone could suggest on learning how to insert the script. I have the shoutbox script but not sure how to get it up (if I am making any sense here).

(I put the music on the first page as a suggestion for halloween, I don't know if it will be there once ya'll get a chance to view it cause it's drivin me bonkers............LOL)

I have the hotscripts bookmarked. I got it when I was looking into signing up with this particular host.

Thanks in advance.

Micki aka resident web monkey for renzpool td's

[(jj)]

Micki,

Ok, just a few things to start :)

Have to agree about music on a web site, but at least you put the control panel there so visitors could turn it off. Not sure about the piece you have, but you need to be cautious about using any copyrighted material.

I'm not sure why, but your music only loads with IE, both my Netscape and Mozilla did not load or play the file.

Your top "Welcome" banner script only works in IE, Mozilla Firebird and Netscape do not see it at all.

You might want to put the names of your people in a couple of neat columns so that they are seperated better and easier to read. Also, don't think you really need the font quite that large.

Loading every picture when anyone clicks to view someones photo tends to slow the page load down a lot. Might consider having their individual pics load in a new window or a popup.

Spread your content out more, no need to center "everything".

For a newbie, you are doing good just don't rely too heavily on the Front Page content, look around and find other ideas and make the site more unique and different :)

Good luck and don't go too crazy listening to that uhhhhhhh.. music??

[Wyndra]

Hi Railroadgrrl~

I used the button provided to turn the music off.
Loved your background, very tactile looking.
Got kicked out of your site several times while trying to navigate.
One more thing I noticed, as a rule of thumb it's better not to underline words that are not links.

GL,

[railroadgrrl]

Hello,

Thank you for the input. I am happy to have the suggestions.

Is there anyway to be able to check and change the fact that some of the items may not load on differing browsers. I'm not quite sure as to how to go about making the pictures pop up in a new window but I'll get out my dummies guide and read up on it. The music is from a movie dvd I have. I recorded it and put it up. I'm not sure on the copyright issue but if I am in conflict I'll gladly take it off (which is prolly a good idea, it's halloween already, right? LOL)

Would there be any specific reason why someone would have gotten kicked off while browsing?

I will do some changes and keep you updated. Do you think it would be a good idea to try maybe a templete?

Micki Pool passion (http://www.poolpassion.com)

[BerksWebGuy]

To make images popup (both IE and Netscape)...you can use a little script I made up. It pops up a window the same size as the pic...plus a little border. You can see it HERE (http://www.berkswebguy.com/web/bar/pics.shtml).

Put this in the head:


<!-- Script provided by BerksWebGuy.com -->
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">

<!-- Begin
function BerksPopUp(img){
foto1= new Image();
foto1.src=(img);
Controlla(img);
}
function Controlla(img){
if((foto1.width!=0)&&(foto1.height!=0)){
viewFoto(img);
}
else{
funzione="Controlla('"+img+"')";
intervallo=setTimeout(funzione,20);
}
}
function viewFoto(img){
largh=foto1.width+20;
altez=foto1.height+20;
stringa="width="+largh+",height="+altez;
finestra=window.open(img,"",stringa);
}
//-->
</script>

Then just add a little line so your image code looks like this :

<a href="javascript:BerksPopUp('/images/bigpic1.jpg')"><img src="images/littlepic1.jpg" border=0 alt="">

[(jj)]

Hey BWG, for some reason I had to click at least twice on each thumbnail before the popup worked. I'm running Mozilla Firebird .70 but they did open on the second click.

They worked fine in IE and Netscape.

<side note>
Now we know where BWG was hiding for the last 5 months! No wonder he couldn't make it onto the forums :D
</side note>

[railroadgrrl]

Hello again. Ok I have redone the site. I really like the colors better. I have taken the music off but left the player there so I could put up, like happy birthday songs and such, etc.

I didn't redo the picture page yet as I want to ask if I had to put thumbnails of the pics for the script to work or can I just attach it right to the names? That way they could just click on the name and the picture popup. I went into the area that asked me what browsers to make the site compatible for and I checked for netscape and IE, I'm not sure about Mozilla though.

Thank you for ya'lls input thus far, it really helped. I would like to put on the main page a "no right clicker thingy" but even that isn't full proof as I know how to get around that.

Micki Pool passion (http://www.poolpassion.com)

[BerksWebGuy]

(jj)...I haven't been there the entire time...but some of the time :D


I like the newly designed better. But just some feedback...
The top of your page looks a little off center (especially the divider bar). And your menu should be on top, where people can first see it when the enter the site. But great improvement over the last design (in my opinion).

[(jj)]

Much nicer :)

You are using width="821" height="778" in your table definition, and those visitors who run 800x600 monitor resolution will have a horizontal scroll bar. It's best to use 100% instead of setting a static width. Also, a height attribute in the table tag is ignored by many browsers, height should be set in your individual <td>'s

As BWG pointed out, the top seems to be off center (out of balance). Maybe move your "RenzRebels" image over under where the marquee is to balance it better.

As for the picture "popups", you can use either thumbnails or text for the links.

Your "no-right-click thingy" is working, but just so you know it's also very annoying to those who like to open pages in a new browser window. It really does nothing to protect images if someone really wants them. There is cache files, print screen and a person can also view source (thru the menu) and find the path to any images they want. If they are using Netscape or Mozilla, all they have to do is use the "Page Info" and get any/all images that are on a page. To me the no right click is almost as annoying as music on a web site ;)

One thing, 2 of your images "rebelsreaper.jpg" and "fedflag.gif" total about 120k between just those 2. You might want to look at making them smaller or optimizing them a bit better to speed up page load time. (it takes about 50secs to a little over a minute to load on dialup).

Everything except your marquee is working in both Netscape and Mozilla :)

Nice improvement, keep up the good work.

<side note>
BWG, hope you don't expect me to believe that tall tale, now do you :D
</side note>

[railroadgrrl]

Ty!!

Im trying to get it to fit 8x6 but I used one of the predone tables and am having a hard time trying to get it to reduce.

It's best to use 100% instead of setting a static width. Also, a height attribute in the table tag is ignored by many browsers, height should be set in your individual <td>'s

Im not sure what that means, but I will definately look into it. I can change the no right clicker thingy. I find them annoying also, as I definately know how to get around it. When I see something like I like and they wont let me look, I can get around it to view their source. I like to look at the html settings on pages to see where they are getting their scripts and such.

I don't understand about that blasted marquee.............LOL I can also reoptimize the two pictures on the main page. I use PSP regularly and I should be able to cut that size in half. I know that if it is taking that long, I have a few td's that are on 28.8 <gasp> but they haven't given me feedback as of yet.

My other site, I had someone help me with it, that's how I learned to use front page instead of writing all the html out, but this one I have no help, so it takes me abit longer to try to get it to do what I want.

Thanks for all the input. I really appreciate it.

Micki
Pool passion (http://www.poolpassion.com)

[(jj)]

I don't use FP, but I believe there is an "edit source" or something similar that will allow you to fine tune the html.

In your <table> tag where it has width="781" - change that to read width="100%" That way, no matter what resolution someone is using, it will just fill the screen.

You need to be careful with the rest of the table <td>'s to make sure that everything will still fit inside of an 800 width. With the width set to 100% , if you have 2 cells that total more than around 780 then text will start wrapping and throwing everything out of balance (for those using 800x600).