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Dear users,
I am interested in how this highly framed flash site is viewed in non IE browsers.
In particular Netscape browsers are needed for a true eval.
What I need to know is:
Are the frames well constructed?
When you resize your browser, is the site site centered?
The main page should remain in the center no matter how you resize your browser.
http://gamut.microlounge.net
Happy New Years.
Mirzabah
12-28-03, 11:05 PM
Works in Mozilla/Firebird :)
Works in NS 7.1 :-)
Suggestions:
Your pages, eg. rpanel.html, is neither correct HTML 4.01 nor XHTML 1.0, see http://validator.w3.org for details.
The embed element is not part of the HTML 4.01 Specification, and is therefore not a W3C standard. Also, http://devedge.netscape.com/viewsource/2002/markup-and-plugins/ recommends "in order to overcome the shortcomings that you can't nest object elements in IE and that there isn't a way you can simply use one object element in a cross-browser way (with architecture specific obtainment mechanisms), the best course of action is to dynamically write object elements based on architecture. For example, on browsers that support ActiveX, such as IE, create an object element with a classid attribute, and on browsers that support the Netscape Plugin architecture, use a MIME type."
JavaScript Expample:
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
if (window.ActiveXObject)
{
// browser supports ActiveX
// Create object element with
// download URL for IE OCX
document.write('<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"');
document.write(' codebase="http://download.macromedia.com');
document.write('/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0"');
document.write(' width="366" height="142" id="myFlash">');
document.write(' <param name="movie" value="javascript-to-flash.swf">');
document.write(' <param name=quality value=high>');
document.write(' <param name="swliveconnect" value="true">');
document.write('<\/object>');
}
else
{
// browser supports Netscape Plugin API
document.write('<object id="myFlash" data="javascript-to-flash.swf"');
document.write(' type="application/x-shockwave-flash"');
document.write(' width="366" height="142">');
document.write('<param name="movie" value="javascript-to-flash.swf">');
document.write('<param name="quality" value="high">');
document.write('<param name="swliveconnect" value="true">');
document.write('<p>You need Flash for this.');
document.write(' Get the latest version from');
document.write(' <a href="http://www.macromedia.com/downloads">here<\/a>.');
document.write('<\/p>');
document.write('<\/object>');
}
-->
</script>
Hi,
Two observations about your site:
1) When resizing the browser window, no scroll bars ever appear. Maybe they're not supposed to? It just seems like if I resize my browser down around 800x600 or less, everything gets cut off.
2) Although the flash looks nice, it felt slow to me. As if I was on a dial-up connection (which I'm not). Also, when I click on the links, there are like two or three bright white flashes on the screen before anything loads below the menu area.
Otherwise, the site is looking good :D
This is with Mozilla Firebird 0.7 on Linux.
xjnick,
no scroll bars should appear. This is as designed.
bright flash is artistic license from flash developer.
this is noise to prove we're not perfect.
Slow concerns me though, I'll have it investigated.
Thanks for your feedback.
RKD, Thanks for your feedback.
that code stuff hurts my head. I'll leave that stuff up to the search engines. if they don't like it, so be it.
in this case, it's a private online business card for one of our photojournalists.
The above code example has nothing to do with search engines! Really.
Your website worked for me (NS 7.1) because I already had the flash plug-in installed.
If however someone visits your current website with a Netscape/Mozilla browser *without* installed flash plug-in, he/she will simply see nothing (no flash content). And chances are that the flash player will *not* be installed automatically, because the install path within the object element is ignored by NS/Mozilla.
Also, IMHO there is no need to use any frames on your website. You could simply position your contents on your index page by tables (or CSS), put the flash movie into a table cell and, on demand, let flash load other flash files with further content directly into the flash player.
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