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Hi guys,
Is it possible to buy more storage space? At the moment i got 1Gig and using it for a forum. I wish to buy say another 1Gig of space but want everything (profile and registration details) to remain the same, just having my capacity to be 2Gig. OR would two separate servers i dont mind.
What are my options?
alphadesk
4-10-04, 03:15 PM
Packages cannot be combined.
You would have to purchase a second package with its own domain name. Spread the files across both packages the best you can.
Arh okie, so how do i deal with domain names?
Would i have to make up another name
eg. www.mydomain.gallery.com for the second package?
Skunkboy
4-10-04, 03:54 PM
most common solution is getting the .net, .com, .us, etc. equiv to your existing domain and then hosting part of it on one and the other part on the other. code, scripts, movies on one, images on the other -or something like that. Either way, usually a certain type of files on one and another type on the other so you know remember what goes on where.
There's ways to mask the url to make it appear at your main site via .htaccess though if I'm not mistaken. Either way, then you would put an index.html on the secondary to redirect to your primary so everybody gets started at the same spot in case they use the secondary domain name first.
So by buying another package, i would have two separate OPS logons? Can the two be managed through one OPS?
Skunkboy
4-10-04, 04:35 PM
yes, there's an option to purchase an additional package through the packages tab. Actually, once you log into ops, change the url to http://ops.powweb.com/?module=packages&command=New that'll put you right at it. Plus, with a second package, you get $15 off.
BerksWebGuy
4-10-04, 04:45 PM
As said above...you can only add another package. BUT...it can be a subdomain of your first package. Example....you have a site with alot of pics taking up your bandwidth...you can have a second package that the domain is images.yoursite.com (so it actually looks like a subdomain...when it really is another package). Contact support to set this method up.
Skunkboy
4-10-04, 04:50 PM
I was thinking I had seen a post about that before but wasn't sure so I didn't mention it. That would make life even easier then. -thanks for posting that ;)
So with the second package, i would have different ids (eg, domainname, ftp connection, servername and OPS ids etc) to log into?
Seeing that i cannot combine packages (ie, make 1g to 2g of space on a one server) i would want it to be completely seperate which i think is the best way to go OR am i wrong and i can administer both packages under one single OPS???
What is taking up the space? If you have a lot of the space taken up with a few large downloads, I have been considering offering some free download "mirroring". If you think you might not want to pay the extra fee for an entire second package when you'd only go a little bit over, let me know. dan_wolf_tp@hotmail.com
To answer your question, you still go to ops.powweb.com to log in. You have completely different ftp accounts and all that other good stuff BUT you can switch between administering the different packages with the click of one button at ops.powweb.com so it is very easy to take care of both.
I submit a question.
You can't sell space on an existing PowWeb account for profit.
However, if a theoretical person (not necissarily me at the moment, but if you can and do, I want a % haha) wanted to have lets say www.Stupid-Name-Hinting-That-I-Resell.com and then sell (say at a discout of offering a client a .com of their own)
client1.Stupid-Name-Hinting-That-I-Resell.com
client2.Stupid-Name-Hinting-That-I-Resell.com and
client3.Stupid-Name-Hinting-That-I-Resell.com
Wouldn't that be valid according to the TOS since each for profit entity is receiving its own ops, dns, space, and other items associated with paying for its own powweb account?
DISCLAIMER::: Even if this is possible, common sense indicates that you'd probably wanna utilize a host set up for reselling, or have a dedicated host allowing you whatever freedoms you want, but this could be a viable solution for someone wishing to only maintain 5 or so teeny tiny small clients or so.
Well i'm running a forum at the moment and there's plenty of space let for normal forum business. Thing is i'm abit worry atm cos there are demands for everyone to have free uploads to the server (atm it's by way of contribution members only).
If i do allow free unlimted uploads then i would want it on a seperate server dedicated specifically for event pics and normal member pics etc. It's only good It practice to be organise in file storages.
Anyway say i just keep the current package and allow free uploads to everyone man and his dogs, what would happen when i get to say 900MB/1G storage. Is it too late then or can i still buy another package and spend alot of time transfer files over? what affect will it have on the forums in terms of speed etc.
When your limit of 25,000 files or 1 Gig space (whichever comes first) is reached, then no more uploads would be allowed by the server. At that time you could decide what to do.
Personally, to allow unlimited uploads by everyone is just asking for trouble. Remember, you are the ONLY one responsible for what content your site contains. So if someone were to upload a bunch of warez or adult material, it could cost you your account.
So theretically when i reached my limit, i can move the forum side of things to the new package? and what ever size it is (as seen from the backups that powweb does regulary up regualrly) will take up the new package?
I know the pics are store on a different directory then the forum, it should not interfere with the forum space right? Also when i move the forum storage to the new package, would the links to any pics to the other package be destroyed?
Skunkboy
4-13-04, 04:06 AM
depends on how you setup the link dir. you can have the second package be a subdir second.first.com as long as this is your original config, you shouldn't have trouble migrating.
I guess that would depend on how the links to the pics were setup to start with.
You might want to consider creating a subdomain to store the pics, then when/if you reach your limit, purchase a new package for the pics subdomain. As long as the links to the pics were originally set to point to the subdomain, they should still work after they are moved.
But didn't someone say you cant combine packages. Creating a subdomain (wouldn't even know how to do that) on the current package would mean i'm allocating spaces to that right? so then buying a new package and adding on to that subdomain would not be possible????
It has been stated by one of the Admin, that you can purchase a new package and have a subdomain pointed to it. It takes an Admin to be able to do this, but supposedly it can be done.
Setting up a subdomain is easy, HERE is a Guide (http://www.rccomputer.net/tips/subdomains.html)
The subdomain would have it's own package with a full 1 Gig of space.
Arhh i get it now. So i create a subdomain with my current package and have all pics related files put there. When i go to buy my new pacjage i just ask the admin to set it up so the subdomain would be directed to the new 1Gig, which in effect means the admin would be moving my subdomain data to my new package.
Do i have a written Agreement on this? :D
I don't think they would transfer the files for you, but the url would remain the same (just on it's own package).
No, no written agreement :D but here is the thread where it was stated THREAD (http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33561)
ggriffith
4-14-04, 08:10 PM
Yes, it is correct that the only way for more disk space would be to get a second package. You could manage both from the same ops if you want. You would go to your ops page and to packages, then to domains. You will see add domain down towards the bottom. That would be all there is to it. One more thing I forgot to mention, you will need a second domain name.:o
BerksWebGuy
4-14-04, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by ggriffith
One more thing I forgot to mention, you will need a second domain name.:o
James stated in an earlier thread that it can be a subdomain of an existing domain at powweb. See my previous post in this thread. Is it the same or did it change??
Would it cost to create this subdomain? In Ops it says so but in the guide posted by jj http://www.rccomputer.net/tips/subdomains.html (click) there no indication? :)
Oh and it's safe to do it at any time, I've had a bad run with restoring databases and i dont want to muck nothing up again...;)
Croc Hunter
4-14-04, 11:11 PM
Subdomains are free and can be created anytime you like. I would avoid midnight in L.A. when restoring your db. Thats when powweb do their backups.
What about permissioning of the htdocs and cgi-bin files in the subdomain after creating them?
The subdomains htdocs and cg-bin folders should be 755. You can set permissions on the files inside of those just as you do with your main domain.
Yup i meant to say folders...
Okie, now what do i need to do to be able to link/make images files viewable from one of the subdomain folders with respect to this issue (http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35856) .
Okie i think i need more help here.
I was able to mk dir and folders via ftp but when it comes to upload or creating directories from a gallery software point of view (automatically withing the program), it cannot.
I'm thinkinf it may have to do with .htaccess file, how should i create this file and what data to put i it if it's the case.
btw, i already have a .htaccess file sitting in the other directory, the tutorials said
Creating/Editing the .htaccess file
If you've already created a .htaccess file open it (to create a new file, check this tutorial) and add the following line to the .htaccess file:
RewriteEngine On
Options +FollowSymlinks
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} sub.yoursite.com
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !subfolder/
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ subfolder/$1 [L]
Does it means i open get the already created .htaccess file and past the above text in and have that file saved to the subdomain htdocs folder?
Originally posted by hpa
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btw, i already have a .htaccess file sitting in the other directory, the tutorials said
Does it means i open get the already created .htaccess file and past the above text in and have that file saved to the subdomain htdocs folder?
Are you saying that you HAVE an .htaccess setup for a subdomain that is already in your htdocs folder? Or just that you do have an .htaccess file (for other purposes) in there?
*For the record, you can not have an .htaccess subdomain and a root directory subdomain that BOTH use the same name*
*Also, you can not create an .htaccess subdomain in your subdomain folder* To use the .htaccess method, you have to create a folder within htdocs for you subdomain and place the .htaccess file in the original (main) htdocs folder.
If you already have an .htaccess file, just paste that code into it (preferably at the top). Of course you have to change the "sub" and "subfolder" to your subdomain name.
You save it or upload the .htaccess file to you htdocs folder, not the subdomain folder.
Confused Yet? ;)
Arh dont worry about the htaccess thingie.
I'm happy now that i was able to setup and use my subdomain for image uploads only (mind you i had to install the gallery program on that subdomain htdocs folder . ;). I think it safe to NOT muck about with the .htaccess file.
So now i have to wait till my quota size limite is near and buy another 1G then ask the admins to have my subdomain pointed to the new 1G. Sounds good ay?
Sounds like a plan ;)
Glad you got things sorted out, I was under the impression that you had already installed your gallery on the sub Guess I shouldn't assume, huh?
Using mydomain.com as an example, you would set up your domain to point to your first 1GB website package. You can then add as many additional 1GB website packages as you want by just creating new "websites" by keying in the subdomain name, eg sub1.mydomain.com, sub2,mydomain.com, sub3.domain.com, etc, in your OPS as new website packages. They can all be handled on the same billing arrangement. PowWeb really excels in this area.
All this is done by having one registered domain name, eg mydomain.com, point to PowWeb's DNS servers. When you add new website packages to your list of website packages listed in OPS one with a specific subdomain, eg sub1.mydomain.com will automatically pick up all traffic directed to *.sub1.mydomain.com, while any other traffic for *.mydomain.com (not covered by other subdomained websites you add to OPS will go to the primary site. I know this for a fact I am doing it.
In fact in one of my setups, the primary domain I actually have aliased to another PowWeb 1GB website with a totally different domain, while the children (subdomains) representing different states each have their own 1GB website once they get large enough to outgrow their space on the parent with a different domain name.
If your intent is to gain more space, a master and children arrangement should do it transparently for you with one domain. With mod_rewrite they would never even see the subdomain URLs.
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