Difference between package and website

[broniusm]

I've been with PowWeb for a couple years and am increasingly happy with the service and control center power we have over our own accounts.

What is the difference between packages and websites? What's the advantage to creating a new package for a given website over a domain name pointer to an existing package's subdirectory?

thanks
-bronius

[FlyinV]

With each package you get the 1 gig of space, 5 databases, and the 5 gig bandwidth a day.

If you add a domain pointer then both websites share the one package.

[tbonekkt]

Adding a new package gives you separate bandwidth, storage space, etc. If you add a domain pointer, you are sharing all aspects of one package across multiple domains.

For example, you have two domains hosted in one package. Between the two, you cannot go over 5GB transfer a day. You have 1GB space to share between the two. You have 650 POP accounts to share between the two. you have 5 MySQL databases to share between the two.

Now let's say you have two domains hosted in two separate packages. You then have 5GB transfer a day for each domain. You have 1GB space for each domain. You have 650 POP accounts for each domain. You have 5 MySQL databases for each domain.

I think what it all comes down to is what you really need. I host four websites on one package: my personal site, my fiancee's professional site, my web design site, and a joint site for my fiancee and I. Those sites don't generate enough traffic to warrant separate packages.


EDIT: yeah, what FlyinV said. :D I'm just wordy today...

[BerksWebGuy]

You can have up to 15 domains under one package.

If you go under the same package...then you have to pay the $25 one-time domain pointing fee (for each domain). You still get email, subdomains, etc. (you still have to share the limits). You can redirect each domain to a different subfolder so it looks like a seperate site.

If you go with another package...you already know what you get. The advantage is that you get another server path...and you don't have to redirect to a subfolder. You also get the bandwidth and storage that goes with the new package.

So it depends on your needs and how big the site will be. For most of us...the domain pointing is fine. But for some cases...another package is ideal (plus you will get a $15 referral credit).

EDIT:

Must be slow today... :cool:

[broniusm]

thanks, all, for the very helpful feedback. basically that's what I'd surmised, but I thought it too good to be true for my small-time needs!

happy developing!

PS: Tom- congrats and good luck!

[jamestrotta]

Could you explain the talk about subfolders a little more? For example my site is www.eslgo.com

If I get a new domain under the same package would I have www.esl-blog.com in a folder like eslgo.com/blog or something?

Also how does the two domain thing work with FTP? I'm on space.powweb.com, so my new site would be too? Then when I log on with FTP I would have two htdocs folders (one for each site), two cgi-bins, etc?

You can have up to 15 domains under one package.

If you go under the same package...then you have to pay the $25 one-time domain pointing fee (for each domain). You still get email, subdomains, etc. (you still have to share the limits). You can redirect each domain to a different subfolder so it looks like a seperate site.

If you go with another package...you already know what you get. The advantage is that you get another server path...and you don't have to redirect to a subfolder. You also get the bandwidth and storage that goes with the new package.

So it depends on your needs and how big the site will be. For most of us...the domain pointing is fine. But for some cases...another package is ideal (plus you will get a $15 referral credit).

EDIT:

Must be slow today... :cool:

[BerksWebGuy]

You have 2 choices if you want another package. Either buy another domain name (or free one with package)...and just pull files from your other domain.

Or the other package can be a subdomain of the first domain. For example...you have www.yoursite.com and you have a huge photo gallery taking up space and bandwidth. Open another package and tell support you want it to be images.yoursite.com. So when looking at your code...it seems like it pulling from a subdomain, instead of another package.

Any clearer??

If you want 2 domains going to the same package...then domain2.com can go to domain1.com/subfolder. You do this using .htaccess. Follow the tutorial HERE (http://help.powweb.com/tutorials/htaccess/subdomain.php) after your register the domain and purchase domain pointing through OPS for a one-time fee of $25.

[broniusm]

jamestrotta-
consider also the really fantastically simple ability to setup and point a subdomain to its own site root. This tutorial on setting up subdomain pointing (http://resources.powweb.com/support/tutorials/index.php?category=htaccess&topic_id=50), you can easily create:

blog.eslgo.com

without shelling out the dns reg fee and powweb pointing fee.

Interestingly, however, I use this structure from a different (can't find it) resource I found on PowWeb, and it works completely independently of my main site:
/blog/htdocs
would yield
blog.eslgo.com

[jamestrotta]

.... you want 2 domains going to the same package...then domain2.com can go to domain1.com/subfolder. You do this using .htaccess. Follow the tutorial HERE (http://help.powweb.com/tutorials/htaccess/subdomain.php) after your register the domain and purchase domain pointing through OPS for a one-time fee of $25.

OK, this is what I want since I already bought my domain names. Now these sites are going to be using PHPbb. Having a domain in a sub folder of www.eslgo.com isn't going to mess up my paths or anything is it?

[BerksWebGuy]

Nope...say you have domain1.com/phpbb/ You can easily have domain2.com point to the subfolder.

Just remember...all the server/absolute paths are still under the first domain...you're just pointing domain2.com to a subfolder.

[jamestrotta]

After reading that tutorial about manipulating htaccess to have something.eslgo.com redirect to mynewdomain.com I wonder if I'm going to run into trouble with search engines. Does anyone know about the SEO aspects of this multiple domains in one package thing?

[BerksWebGuy]

If you have it correct...the search engines can't tell. Alot of us have 2-5 domains under one package...and all of the sites come up on search engines. If the format and links are correct...I don't think it will make any difference.

[jamestrotta]

Thank you but one more concern. Under packages: additional domains in OPS it says "This is not a second website" right above add domain. Is that just because this isn't officially supported? I mean I'm only doing this because I want additional web sites...

Also, do the DNS for the new domain (the one pointing to my current site's subfolder) settings have to be Powwebs? I guess I could just keep them with my registrar since they're just pointing to a subfolder of my site...

[BerksWebGuy]

They are saying its not another package (website)...you just adding a domain to your current package (website). Its is supported to have multiple domains under one package...but its up to you (not supported) to have it redirected to a subfolder.

The nameservers have to point to powweb...and you have to purchase domain pointing. You will then get the email, subdomains, etc.

If you do not go through powweb (have your registrar forward your 2nd domain to the subfolder)...then you will be missing out on all these features.

[IanS]

...If you do not go through powweb (have your registrar forward your 2nd domain to the subfolder)...then you will be missing out on all these features.Mainy registrars that offer domain pointing and access to dns control also offer limited e-mail services.
But would using registrar pointing to avoid the Powweb fee not be a breach of trust and probably their Terms of Service?

[BerksWebGuy]

But would using registrar pointing to avoid the Powweb fee not be a breach of trust and probably their Terms of Service?

I don't see how it would violate the TOS.

[stevel]

You can't avoid the PowWeb fee if you want to point a second domain to a package. That's because PowWeb's web server needs to know which package corresponds to which incoming domain name request If you don't pay the $25, the virtual host tables don't reflect the new domain and all you'll see is the server default page.