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reading the thread below by (sportbikerchic) and the answer by starr just gave me goosebumps.But i also have seen the condition (the rule)in faq.
now if by mistake i did transfer more than 10mb and like (alphadesk) has said that your servers would time out at the 10mb limit to keep it from getting tied out.
Do they time out (for sure) at 10mb?
I for one will not bend your rules on purpose and can tell by your hard core answers that you have had bad trouble in this area.
KenCarlson
5-2-02, 03:09 PM
I'll say up front that none of my sites have any files that even come close to 1 Mb (much less 10 Mb!), but I am curious to know the reasoning behind the 10 Mb max filesize restriction...
I've read the various Forum threads on the subject, and I have been unable to understand what the specific technical issue is with a 10 Mb file. If my web site has a page allowing visitors to download three 5 Mb files, don't I use the same amount of bandwidth and resources as somebody whose page allows a visitor to download one 15 Mb file? Isn't all of this already covered in the 200 Mb limit on total hosting space and the 16 Gb per month bandwidth-usage limit?
Again, none of the files on my site even come close to the 10 Mb limit, but I'm still curious to understand the REASON for PowWeb's limit.
Also, I am of the opinion that PowWeb should make this limit clear in the TOS or in the description of the package features... I don't think it's a good idea to have a limitation like that buried deep in a FAQ... I know that there is a $$$ back guarantee and all, and that people can read the WHOLE FAQ before signing up if they want to, but I think that any limitations - especially limits that, when violated, get your account terminated, should be very clear up front... In fact, ANYTHING that can cause a termination should be clearly spelled out in the TOS - and this 10 Mb max filesize limitation is not.
Just my 2 cents...
Ken Carlson
I agree that it should be placed up front. I believe the reason behind the 10MB file constraint is to prevent users from upload large files to prevent possible warez sites.
robi,
Are you talking about a single file that's 10MB's or uploading files under 10MB's that together add up to more than 10MB's?
Ken,
You made some valid points. Before we had the 10MB limit per file, a customer tried to upload a 30 MB video file over a 56k modem. He was having all kinds of problems due to his connnection and the time it takes to upload the file.
Since Powweb only offer one package that is tailored to a specific audience, we have decided to limit the files size to 10 MB to prevent problems. 99% of most websites do not have files that are over 10MB. Our hosting package is catered to those people. If a webmaster have huge audio and video files (over 10MB), Powweb might not be the right choice.
I will make sure to bring this subject up in our next management meeting and about adding it to our TOS.
Thank you for your input.
I was talking about files that add up to 10mb.I dont have any that are 10mb.I will start loading little at a time.Wish me luck.
Robi
Originally posted by MannInc
I agree that it should be placed up front. I believe the reason behind the 10MB file constraint is to prevent users from upload large files to prevent possible warez sites.
I agree ...
Maurizio
I have to agree with the comments made previously. You need to put this in your TOS. While it may not effect everyone, that it has been brought up in this forum indicates that it effects some of your customers.
I realize there are a good number of warez pirates out there.
I'm not one of them. I have music videos I made specifically for my new domain hosted with your company. All of them are between 13mb and 25mb--maximum compression. While I have other webspace to host them on, the bandwidth is not nearly as high on that server. Plus I wanted all material relavent to the new domain actually *on* that domain.
I wish I'd known up front.
I can understand your reasoning, but it still doesn't solve my problem with the music videos.
Well, I guess you can't have everything.
JLGuidry
pklil.com
Are music videos made by yourself? I mean you sing or play in this
videos?
Maurizio
I'd have to agree with maurizio questions and expand on them. If they don't feature you or are made by you, do have you a license to show them through your site?
Not all files over 10 MB are warez or illegally distributed music. I have some internet friends who are helping me a little with learning 3D modeling and animation. I have to tell you, before you reach a final render, some of these files for static images can be really huge. If you are working on an 3D animation, the files can reach 10-50 MB when fully compressed or even more.
I am not suggesting Powweb change it's policies. I am merely suggesting that large files dont prove illegal web activity.
Dale
I wasn't stating that all files over 10MBs are warez. There are legal files that can be larger than 10MBs. However, if PowWeb allows legal files that are larger than 10MBs, there's is the very likelyhood that someone will upload illegal files that will misuse PowWeb's resources.
I know of no webhost that has the time to inspect every single clients account to see whether the files larger than 10MBs are legal or not.
Originally posted by Ddr
Not all files over 10 MB are warez or illegally distributed music. I have some internet friends who are helping me a little with learning 3D modeling and animation. I have to tell you, before you reach a final render, some of these files for static images can be really huge. If you are working on an 3D animation, the files can reach 10-50 MB when fully compressed or even more.
I am not suggesting Powweb change it's policies. I am merely suggesting that large files dont prove illegal web activity.
Dale
Ddr, I am into 3D modeling/rendering. I use Bryce 5 to do much of my 3D landscaping. While rendering large projects can be quite lengthy, generally thats done on your system unless you do network rendering with other computers networked together :)
Finished pictures you may want to put up on your website in a gallery of your completed renders can just be in .jpg format at anywhere from 30kb to 200kb in size for your viewers. As for annimations, check into something like Ulead Video Studio Pro 6.0 or something like it, where you can take something like a raw .avi file you created and convert it to web ready format ie., real media, windows media player and even svcd mpeg2 for burning your video's onto cd or dvd.
Once you get into it more, you'll be pleasantly suprised at what you can do with a 10mg single file limit and only maybe a little disapointed at what you can't do :)
Something else to consider with large media files, a good many people on the net are still using 56k modem connections and usually will lose patients with large files that take a long time to load.
On the website I just created for the MS Society of Portland, Oregon, Im still trying to tweek the little flash intro I created for the intro page, I even had to remove the short bg music I had in it and its still about 380kb in size. Hard for me to test it accurately though, because I have cable modem, so its instantanious for me. LOL
Mike
Thanks for that. Very informative *S*
I was playing devil's advocate in my last post more than worrying about my own work. I have a variety of other options besides Powweb for sharing large files. I was mostly referring to the exchange of unfinished work for scrutiny by others (not on a shared project network) and some things that have been shared back and forth have been large.
Your post held a lot of information that is valuable, though. I wonder if Michael (MannInc) would consider moving it or just posting a copy of it in the Graphics section of these Forums.
Dale
Massive and hard projects needs a adeguate support. In example if i want to in eg. share a graphic program made by me
or i want to share a complete video because i am a singer, i dont ask a Powweb account, but i ask for a personal machine (server)
with a cable connection to internet. Surely you will spend more
than 7 dollars month but in this way you are free to do what you want. You can set a 120 Giga hard disk and share all MB amount you need. In this case too you have to declare to your ISP how much bandwith you need related to your traffic, but in this case they are not responsable about eventual piracy done files are located on your HD (server). No money for that? Put on your pages some zipped samples or demos (as a lot of business web do) and then share via CD for free or charged.
If you are working for a society or group then charge them for your networking bills. :-)
That's my little opinion just to explain my thoughs.
Sorry for my roman/english
maurizio
the 10meg limit wouldn't mater to warez or realy mp3 traders.
MP3's are popular because of their compact size (almost alwayes under 10megs.
Warez are, 99% of the time "distro'd" in 1.44MB, 2.88MB, or other small file sizes. The only large warez files are usualy from people decompressing these and rezipping them into larger files (this is what you would find on the p2p programs usualy aka Kaaza or morphius)
the 10meg file size seems to only realy be ment to limit file size as it relates to connection time it takes to get and send these files to and from the server.
But that's just my opinion, if Powweb is limiting the file size for music or warez trading reasons, it probly wouldn't be a good reason.
Well, I have to say that Powweb seems to be getting better and better. They just announced the removal of the 10mb file size limit as a direct result of customer requests. I've seen a lot of announcements about scheduled upgrades and problems they are working on. These are positive improvements which are certainly to my liking. :)
-JoKeR
Originally posted by grimor
the 10meg limit wouldn't mater to warez or realy mp3 traders.
the 10meg file size seems to only realy be ment to limit file size as it relates to connection time it takes to get and send these files to and from the server.
This the second or maybe first raison. In this way all users can
have the highest speed available and not slowed by large files
downloads.
But that's just my opinion, if Powweb is limiting the file size for music or warez trading reasons, it probly wouldn't be a good reason.
In the life there are some rules to respect if we like or not :-)
Maurizio
As previously posted, the 10 MB limit has been removed.
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