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Skunkboy

6-8-04, 05:42 PM

I had no issues with my laptop on wireless networks.

I met up with Laurey in person and we were going to network the two but share a dial-up connection at a central meeting place for us.

I insisted I would use mine as the guinea pig attempt.

That guinea pig died.

When I got back home, I couldn't get on the internet with anything but could see my home network - my WAN was being broadcasted and I could catch it but I couldn't even get into the router to modify things.

Figured since that's got things I could screw up, I would go somewhere I knew everything I use works and try tinkering with my system there.

So, here I am on a college campus' wireless network now.

I played around and now have access to use Internet Explorer and all the messengers - AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ but:
I can't use IRC either by mIRC or chat.powweb.com
I can't get into e-mail with Outlook or Pegasys - webmail works but...
I can't get into FTP via Cute or IE - webftp works but...

I've redone the network wizard:
This computer - Other
Describes - through network hub
Selected my wireless card
Ignored the issue about filesharing since I'm not going to use it *well, not @ campus*

I never had issues with needing network name and such before as the name is broadcasted and auto detects.

I don't have any software firewalls running.
I don't have the ICF firewall enabled in networking
I do know that everything works here at the college - did it just a couple weeks ago.

Help! As I told someone who was unable to figure it out: I'm thinking perhaps I "should" put up a firewall though. Grab some diesel or kerosene (not gas because gas explodes - not burn), make a big thick line, light it, and give the "firewall" to my laptop.

My patience at this point is running VERY VERY THIN but at least I'm chuckling inside... Meeting Laurey was great. Though we only had hours together, perhaps this is something saying "I'm not gone yet." And the worse thing was, SHE was joking around saying, "Don't get that laptop too close to mine; whatever it has may be contagious." Well Laurey... you're still fine but who infected who? :D

B&T

6-8-04, 05:49 PM

If you are using XP, do a system restore to a checkpoint before you met Laurey.

Skunkboy

6-8-04, 06:03 PM

Did an F1 and searched for "System Restore" to see all the possible options... I don't need a driver rollback and I don't need to uninstall software :( that's the only two things I can see it can do for me. I need to restore all network settings. :confused:

*edit* and even when I did check my Belkin - no previous drivers available.

extras

6-8-04, 06:46 PM

Have you checked for virus and worms?

If you are connecting to the net without firewall,
maybe you got something.
When you tried to share the net connection,
you might have enabled a service with vulnerability.

Do you have classic wired lan on your laptop?
Did you try to connect FTP with ftp.exe or telnet?

I think you should do a little more systematic testing
to identify the problem.
Verify with Ping to the Router, and then to somewhere
in Wan side.
Check failing software (FTP?) against local server, and so on.

If you can go outside with web browsers,
I don't think that wifi setting is the problem.
But I'm not "Techy" enough to pinpoint anything
with what you showed....

Skunkboy

6-8-04, 07:09 PM

Virus or worm? - yeah - ME!

As for firewall, I'm always running firewalls. At home both in the router and software. I dropped the firewall to try to eliminate any possibilities of the fw's causing problems.

As far as sharing the connection, Laurey's computer was supposed to be the dialer but I couldn't get mine to cooperate and change over to ad-hoc and such. I had tried to see if there was a better way to communicate between the two and in the process of it changing whatever, it froze. I've since then run the wizard umteen times and no luck.

I do have a 10/100 port but don't have any cables available for use <ugh!>

FTP I tried with CuteFTP, & IE but both failed. I didn't try to telnet to FTP but I did try to telnet to mail and it failed.

More testing... sure - but what? I've seen what isn't working... and I've seen what is. And I'm clueless but the ONLY thing I've modified is MS's stupid network wizard.

I'm not behind my router since very early this morning. I came to the college because I know for a fact that everything I'm trying to do DOES work with their network and I hate the 2-wire router that's back at home.

I did netstat -r
I have pinged mail and ftp and gotten responses

I've basicly been on two completely different networks and had the same issues both ways. Home - cheesey home network and then a big college network.

I can get out with the browsers but http://chat.powweb.com won't work because like with mIRC, it wants to pull from 6667.

Wifi is clearly okay.

I'm still at a loss.

extras

6-8-04, 07:25 PM

It sounds like as if someone had installed a kind of firewall
that prevents access to the ports other than HTTP...

Some people protect the machine they hijack
because they don't want your machine to be
hijacked again... by someone else.

Maybe I'm thinking the worst case senario and it's just
some sort of MS BUG or configuration mistake.
But I would be very cautious in your place
as you say cgi-bin has gone away, too.

Skunkboy

6-8-04, 08:08 PM

cgi? it was Laurey's rotation script that I was referring to in my cgi thread... but as far as the laptop and network....

I've tried to remove every protocol associated with my network but it won't let me delete tcp/ip. I was goin' to try reinstalling all of it. Everything else is now gone from there.

Here's my hijack log:
Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.7
Scan saved at 7:07:09 PM, on 6/8/2004
Platform: Windows XP SP1 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP1 (6.00.2800.1106)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\crypserv.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\hkcmd.exe
C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe
C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPLpr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\carpserv.exe
C:\Program Files\Dell\AccessDirect\dadapp.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\bcmwltry.exe
C:\Program Files\Viewpoint\Viewpoint Manager\ViewMgr.exe
C:\Program Files\mIRC\mirc.exe
C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://google.com
F2 - REG:system.ini: UserInit=C:\Windows\System32\wsaupdater.exe,
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {0000607D-D204-42C7-8E46-216055BF9918} - C:\WINDOWS\mxTarget.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 6.0\Reader\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Popup Manager - {08E74C67-99A6-45C7-94DA-A397A8FD8082} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {83DE62E0-5805-11D8-9B25-00E04C60FAF2} - C:\WINDOWS\2_0_1browserhelper2.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {9C691A33-7DDA-4C2F-BE4C-C176083F35CF} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: NAV Helper - {BDF3E430-B101-42AD-A544-FADC6B084872} - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - {8E718888-423F-11D2-876E-00A0C9082467} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\System32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IgfxTray] C:\WINDOWS\System32\igfxtray.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SynTPEnh] C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SynTPLpr] C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPLpr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [CARPService] carpserv.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [DadApp] C:\Program Files\Dell\AccessDirect\dadapp.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Belt] C:\WINDOWS\Belt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [IPInSightMonitor 01] "C:\Program Files\SBC Yahoo!\Connection Manager\IP InSight\IPMon32.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SmcService] C:\PROGRA~1\Sygate\SPF\smc.exe -startgui
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [bcmwltry] bcmwltry.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [RemoveCpl] RemoveCpl.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ViewMgr] C:\Program Files\Viewpoint\Viewpoint Manager\ViewMgr.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Windows SA] C:\Program Files\WindowsSA\omniscient.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Tracks Eraser Pro] C:\Program Files\Acesoft\Tracks Eraser Pro\te.exe min
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Weather] C:\Program Files\AWS\WeatherBug\Weather.exe 1
O4 - HKLM\..\RunOnce: [WIAWizardMenu] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\sti_ci.dll,WiaCreateWizardMenu
O4 - Startup: 2Wire Wireless Client Manager.lnk = ?
O4 - Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OSA.EXE
O4 - Startup: stickypic_160.lnk = C:\stickypic\stickypic_160.exe
O4 - Global Startup: PhraseExpress.lnk = C:\Program Files\PhraseExpress\phrase.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~3\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Free Software - C:\Program Files\TextWiz\hh.html
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: ICQ Pro (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ICQ (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: AIM (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: WeatherBug (HKCU)
O16 - DPF: {01A88BB1-1174-41EC-ACCB-963509EAE56B} (SysProWmi Class) - [url]http://support.dell.com/systemprofiler/SysPro.CAB[/url]
O16 - DPF: {02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B} (QuickTime Object) - [url]http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab[/url]
O16 - DPF: {166B1BCA-3F9C-11CF-8075-444553540000} (Shockwave ActiveX Control) - [url]http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/director/sw.cab[/url]
O16 - DPF: {19E28AFC-EAE3-4CE5-AC83-2407B42F57C9} (MSSecurityAdvisor Class) - [url]http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/5/c/05c905f4-dd30-427d-a3de-373c3e5552fc/msSecAdv.cab?1075520930296[/url]
O16 - DPF: {2B96D5CC-C5B5-49A5-A69D-CC0A30F9028C} (MiniBugTransporterX Class) - [url]http://download.weatherbug.com/minibug/tricklers/AWS/MiniBugTransporter.cab?[/url]
O16 - DPF: {30528230-99F7-4BB4-88D8-FA1D4F56A2AB} (YInstStarter Class) - [url]http://download.yahoo.com/dl/installs/yinst0309.cab[/url]
O16 - DPF: {56336BCB-3D8A-11D6-A00B-0050DA18DE71} (RdxIE Class) - [url]http://207.188.7.150/0882ea94ee6a6da63316/netzip/RdxIE601.cab[/url]
O16 - DPF: {60EFC337-15C2-4369-B2A0-3429B071D8B8} (WebProgramManager Class) - [url]http://isupport4.hp.com/awebui/jsp/answerweb/applets/HPISWebManager.CAB[/url]
O16 - DPF: {74D05D43-3236-11D4-BDCD-00C04F9A3B61} (HouseCall Control) - [url]http://a840.g.akamai.net/7/840/537/2004033001/housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/xscan53.cab[/url]
O16 - DPF: {89D75D39-5531-47BA-9E4F-B346BA9C362C} (CWDL_DownLoadControl Class) - [url]http://www.callwave.com/include/cab/CWDL_DownLoad.CAB[/url]
O16 - DPF: {9C691A33-7DDA-4C2F-BE4C-C176083F35CF} - [url]http://www2.flingstone.com/cab/2000XP/bridge-c1.cab[/url]
O16 - DPF: {9F1C11AA-197B-4942-BA54-47A8489BB47F} (Update Class) - [url]http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/unicode/iuctl.CAB?37988.119212963[/url]
O16 - DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} (Shockwave Flash Object) - [url]http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab[/url]
O16 - DPF: {E93A6FCA-C052-45DF-AC9B-B729066092F8} (Util Class) - [url]https://isupport4.hp.com/motivedocs/linklauncher/MotUtil.cab[/url]

XJnick

6-8-04, 08:37 PM

When I got back home, I couldn't get on the internet with anything but could see my home network - my WAN was being broadcasted and I could catch it but I couldn't even get into the router to modify things.

Just a thought:

Have you ensured that your WEP settings are correct? If you have an incorrect WEP key or don't have WEP enabled on your laptop when it is activated on the router, you wouldn't be allowed on the network. If this is the case you'll have to access the router over it's wired network to change any settings. :D

YvetteKuhns

6-8-04, 09:23 PM

So, after a few hours with Laurey, you are infected. Remember that, boys. Don't play around with a Web Wench! ;)

Nick (my new PHP guy) just hooked up to my router okay while maintaining his Internet connection settings for home. But he has dial up at home and used the Wizard for a LAN connection to use here.

You were going to network the two but share a dial up connection and now you cannot get on the Internet with anything, but you could see your home network.

I've tried to remove every protocol associated with my network but it won't let me delete tcp/ip. I was goin' to try reinstalling all of it. Everything else is now gone from there.

Did you check your TCP/IP Network Properties? You may need to reinstall the Network stuff for Windows or change the settings. You said you can get on the college network, but not your home network. Try creating a new "Client for Microsoft Network" configuration.

Oh, yeah. You are using XP, so you may have to jump through more hoops. Good luck. Maybe I can get in touch with Matt who knows more about this stuff.

Skunkboy

6-8-04, 10:33 PM

grrrr everybody insists that I was going through my router but failed to notice the many times I said the word COLLEGE. I was on a college campus most of the day tryin' to get my laptop cleared up because I know for a fact that I can do everything there and I hate the 2wire router we've got at home so I went to the college campus to straighten things out because the router at home goes flaky on me too often in general.

BUT, before I had left the campus for the night, I had deleted everything that was associated with my network connection... well, all except tcp/ip. I couldn't get that to uninstall. I was goin' to delete it all and try to start from scratch on adding services and such. I had rebooted there a couple times after removing everything but tcp/ip but still had no luck.

So, I killed the network connection, hopped on the bus, rode an hour on the bus, walked down my road (leeching access along the way from other wireless networks) and then when I finally got home so I could steady my laptop and open all the various programs - *poof* Out of the middle of nowhere it all works.

Have I ever said how much I hate Dell? Or perhaps its a M$ thing... I'm not fond of them either though.

Sorry for the hassle in here and honestly, I still have no clue as to why it works now and it wouldn't all day long. Talk about a waste of time.

/me digs a hole and places all the dirt on top of one of those rolling canvases for pickup trucks (so you can crank it and the load will empty), lays in the hole, and with a modified crank, cranks the load back into the hole. -well, isn't that what you're supposed to do with dead animals?

extras

6-8-04, 11:29 PM

You know, when they hijack your machine,
they don't want you to get rid of their hidden software.
So, sometime, they help you to restore your machine
in good state so that you get happy
and forget about checking.....I'm just kidding.

But really, you have bunch of junk software running.
Outlook, MSmessanger, antivirus, and so on.
(Auto-update as well?)

I'm not surprised if you get infected and/or
experience strange problem with all these.

Having said that, if you complain a lot about your machine,
it tends to break more often and work less well.
It's like a flower.
You should take good care of your machine and stop
threatening to put fire on it. Then it may work better.
I'm not kidding about this.
I regularly observe high rate of problem aroud
people who blame on their computer, car, girlfriend....

Skunkboy

6-9-04, 02:32 AM

Outlook was running because that's one of the things that wasn't sending/receiving and when I captured the hijack log, it was still open.

Messenger was open because someone was giving me some things to try when I catured the hijack log.

Antivirus - junk software? I don't think so.

Auto-update - yes, I had fired it up to make sure there wasn't any special patch I was missing.

I'm not surprised if you get infected and/or
experience strange problem with all these.

In general I don't have any problems unless I'm also playing mp3's but then it just slows some things down - doesn't help when on average, if I [alt]+[tab] between programs I usually have three or four rows of icons. (Laurey saw my computer when she first pulled in - she'll admit I run a lot at once :D )

I won't comment on the bit about my not liking Dell. There's obvious manufacturing issues as yes, I've dealt with mine but also six other 1100's, four 5100's, and two 8500's and the problems are pretty much the same all across the board. (that's all I'll say to that)

KRaNiX

6-9-04, 02:42 AM

I won't comment on the bit about my not liking Dell. There's obvious manufacturing issues as yes, I've dealt with mine but also six other 1100's, four 5100's, and two 8500's and the problems are pretty much the same all across the board. (that's all I'll say to that)

DELL SUKS MAJOR SOMETHING, i have major issues with all their laptops. and plz dont tell me its not a DELL issue, im in IT support for a firm of 500+ ppl, and the one brand we now never buy is DELL, we stick to IBM. i stupidly bought a laptop from dell simply because it was cheap. Turnt out its a pile of crap and has all kinds of issues with networking and hardware in general

as for junkie sofware, Outlook and AV are essential if you want to recieve emails

extras

6-9-04, 12:04 PM

I don't think running many apps affect a lot, these days.
Computers are very powerful with lots of memory.
It's not like my first computer which had 4k bytes of memory...
Usually, I have at least several, if not several dozen windows, open
without much problem, for both windows and linux.

Auto update is like a spyware.
You never know what MS is installing into your machine.
And I do not trust MS or many other big corporations.
They don't have good records.
(Just remember Enron, Nortel, and so on)

You need anti-virus because you use unsafe software like Outlook.
Otherwise, anti-virus software is nearly useless and create more problems.
All my friends do not use them and happier than before with faster booting,
faster operations, and less troubles. (They all use Router and firewall, though.)

I have a used Dell machine.
I use it at a remote location as media-streaming server and DVD recorder.
It's running 24h/day 7days/week for more than 6 months without problem.
(Maybe I'm just a lucky guy, though)

As I'm pretty happy with the result of the choice I made,
I'm not going to change my opinion, at least for now.
But I know you may have different opinions and I do not try to modify the way you think.
I wrote because you were having problem, and I honestly think you may have
less problem if you get rid of these softwares.

XJnick

6-9-04, 12:22 PM

Auto update is like a spyware.
You never know what MS is installing into your machine.
And I do not trust MS or many other big corporations.
They don't have good records.
(Just remember Enron, Nortel, and so on)

You need anti-virus because you use unsafe software like Outlook.
Otherwise, anti-virus software is nearly useless and create more problems.
All my friends do not use them and happier than before with faster booting,
faster operations, and less troubles. (They all use Router and firewall, though.)

I agree with those two points, well said.

I have 4 computers at home here (3 desktops and a laptop), and have NOT run any anti-virus software on any of our computers for a good 7 years now. Many times I've seen problems on others' computers caused by lousy anti-virus software. The truth is you don't need anti-virus software if you use good hardware and/or software firewalls, in addition to making smart choices about what you do on the internet (like not opening e-mails with attachments from people you don't know), and what kinds of networking programs you use (peer-to-peer, etc..)

Of course, Microsoft software (Windows, Outlook, IE) makes the situation so much worse because it is unsecure. But it is your choice to use that software, there are good alternatives avaliable (Linux, Ximian Evolution, Mozilla) :D

KRaNiX

6-9-04, 04:54 PM

I agree with those two points, well said.

I have 4 computers at home here (3 desktops and a laptop), and have NOT run any anti-virus software on any of our computers for a good 7 years now. Many times I've seen problems on others' computers caused by lousy anti-virus software. The truth is you don't need anti-virus software if you use good hardware and/or software firewalls, in addition to making smart choices about what you do on the internet (like not opening e-mails with attachments from people you don't know), and what kinds of networking programs you use (peer-to-peer, etc..)

Of course, Microsoft software (Windows, Outlook, IE) makes the situation so much worse because it is unsecure. But it is your choice to use that software, there are good alternatives avaliable (Linux, Ximian Evolution, Mozilla) :D

but not everyone has the option of installing linux, seeing as its not something u can just pick up and use without any bg experiance.

as for the 7 yrs without a virus, HA, as if. i will give u a single webpage link, that has a virus hard encoded into the damm javascript. a firewall doesnt stop ur system getting infected, it just prevents that virus from performing its function.

as for M$ ya they suk but seeing as its what 90%+ of ppl online use, u can understand why hackers spend a lot more time trying to exploit it rather than going for piece of software only really used by ppl who have the same kinds of interests as the hackrs themselves.

as for the commonsense, it doent even come into play now when a virus can be hard encoded into a webpage, making it impossible for you to use ur judgement.

KRaNiX

6-9-04, 05:00 PM

XJnick

6-9-04, 05:53 PM

but not everyone has the option of installing linux, seeing as its not something u can just pick up and use without any bg experiance.

This is what the major distributions have been working on. Linux (http://www.linux.org/) has come a Long way. I believe that if one put effort into it, they could download, install, and use Mandrake Linux (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/) without any more difficulty than MS Windows XP.

I say this because I am not a long time Linux user. I had first tried Linux back when I used Windows 95, and never really learned how to use it and gave up. But I re-discovered Linux about a year ago, and have been using it since. I basically knew nothing about Linux then, but installed it and began using it with no major problems (I have beome quite skilled at it, I must add :D). I think too many people give up before they try. Remember, everyone spent time learning Windows at some point or another, and likewise there are some new things you'll have to learn about Linux too. but I believe that if you can install and use Windows, you can install and use Mandrake Linux (and of course the other mainstream distributions too).

As for the Virus thing, I'm not going to waste more time arguing over it. I have not had a virus on any of the computers I own/manage and hope I don't get any, either. So I'd say no thank you to your link :p

P.S.: Skunkboy, sorry that I've digressed this thread from your problem :D

Skunkboy

6-9-04, 05:56 PM

P.S.: Skunkboy, sorry that I've digressed this thread from your problem :D

:cool: no biggy. My laptop "seems" to be back to normal; so, I didn't need the thread anymore anyway lol