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ldbrewe
5-10-02, 02:06 PM
where can i find a list of all the color codes?=)

tuna
5-10-02, 02:14 PM
http://webdesign.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/reference/color%5Fcodes/

http://webdesign.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.w3schools.com/css/css%5Fcolornames.asp

bettyfordclinic
5-10-02, 02:16 PM
Colour codes are best chosen through a graphics app. There are limited 256 "web lists", but if a monitor is capable of displaying millions and thousands of colours you're best picking the colour in (eg) photoshop by just reading the html code off the photoshop colour picker.

Try and get photoshop.

bfc

symo
5-10-02, 02:17 PM
Interesting color site:

http://www.bagism.com/colormaker/

Be sure to try some of the links for other color sites.

symo

muijefr
5-11-02, 02:12 PM
bfc gives very good advice. You can count on that. Just don't rob a bank to buy PhotoShop when a new copy will only cost you about $590.00 U.S. As I said bfc gives good advice but in this case, expensive. If your interested in a poor man's version of PhotoShop you can get PaintShopPro for about $75.00. PSP can do all the things you can think of doing with PhotoShop. It's the things you don't think of that cost that extra $500. If you just want a color wheel/color selector your can download a free copy of 20/20 at www.hotfreeware.com.

The number of relevant monitor colors range from monochromatic, to 16 colors, to 256 colors, to 16 bit colors - I think 16 million colors, to 24 bit color - I think 64 million colors, to 32 bit color - 128 million colors I think. The value of computer graphic colors are expressed in several formats: Red Green Blue/RGB, and Hexadecimal value, and others. Hexadecimal is a base 15 numbering system scheme so your value might be 00 00 01 thru ff ff ff. But not all hex values are rendered by all browsers or needless to say all monitors. But the closes value to an invalid hex value is usually rendered by most browsers.

symo
5-11-02, 04:34 PM
Hexadecimal is a base 15 numbering system
Muijefr, I think you meant to type base 16 :)

symo

muijefr
5-11-02, 06:06 PM
f = 16 so it must be base 16. I'm sending myself to my room.

bettyfordclinic
5-11-02, 06:07 PM
At the risk of going out on a limb and bringing up the terrifying subject:

Don't you folks ever get software copied from your friends????

I know it's wrong, but it can be really handy to learn on. And then if you're going to do paid work, buy the full app.

It's wrong, but I move in a circle of constant non-paid software sharing. We don't make money from it, although I guess we sort of self-educate ourselves for free (which doesn't sound too evil either). And this, quite frankly, is the norm amongst my peers. We're bad people......

bfc

alphadesk
5-11-02, 06:18 PM
Don't you folks ever get software copied from your friends????

I am sure a lot us have, but I doubt if many will openly own up to it here in the forum.

Does this answer your question?

Atomic-Design
5-11-02, 07:28 PM
I'm 14, so there's no way I can afford a $500 program. I have about $5000 worth of webdesign software on my computer. If i didn't do that, I could never learn anything!

kvk007
5-11-02, 07:40 PM
ldbrewe, check this out http://omanserv.com/tutorial/web_safe_color_palette.html

symo
5-11-02, 10:18 PM
Umm, well actually F (hex) = 15 (decimal) :)

...................16's........Unit's
..................Place.......Place
1...................0.............1
2...................0.............2
3...................0.............3
4...................0.............4
5...................0.............5
6...................0.............6
7...................0.............7
8...................0.............8
9...................0.............9
A...................0.............A = 10 (decimal)
B...................0.............B = 11 (decimal)
C...................0.............C = 12 (decimal)
D...................0.............D = 13 (decimal)
E...................0.............E = 14 (decimal)
F...................0.............F = 15 (decimal)
10.................1.............0

So for instance 255 (decimal) = FF (hex), or the first F in the 16's place in decimal would equal 16*15 = 240 and the F in the units place in decimal would equal 1*15 = 15, then add the two together and you have 255.

symo

muijefr
5-12-02, 02:44 AM
I was think 10=10 and A=11 but I know you must be right because the base 16 or what ever originated in the base 8 or octal computer addressing schemes. The word size doubled from 4 characters to 8 characters. I've spent too much time in my room already so I'm giving myself a cookie this time.

muijefr
5-12-02, 02:49 AM
I just put up a 7 panel color window easel for desk top use. Works great with IE6 and varying degrees with NetScapes.

http://www.the-ebiz.net/ColorWindows/Large_View.html

SBGlasby
5-12-02, 07:46 AM
Hex is Base 16....

http://www.northwestern.edu/musicschool/links/projects/midi/pages/undstdbh.html




256 colors is correct....

BUT ....the same 256 colors are not shared by all browsers... it's more like 216 colors.... that all browsers can see the same.... once you go outside this 216 range..... colors seem to be off.... just a bit...

Even if your computer is capable of displaying a gazillion colors.... it's the browser.... that limits them.....

SBGlasby
5-12-02, 07:57 AM
As for using un-licensed software........

Companies have invested thousands.... if not millions of hours developing these great software packages...... and they depend.... on people actually paying for them... so they can pay their Developers..... to continue to improve their products.....

if you're using Software that hasn't been paid for... or licensed by you...... it's no different than.... stealing from a Store...

irregardless of your..... complaints... it cost too much....

Do you drive a mercedes? jaguar?... Hummer?...... are you going out and steal one..... just because.... they are too expensive for you to buy?....... go ahead....


As for not being able to learn anything... becasue the program is too costly......

well..... those prorrams just automate ...... code..... there's nothing special added..... you can do the exact same thing..... with any text editor...... " maybe not as fast"..... but it can be done....

AND.... you'll probably learn MORE......

Ajarn
5-12-02, 08:07 AM
I live in Thailand, where you can get ANY software for less than $3. In fact, I've never even seen legal software in Thailand except when you buy a new machine, which has (usually now) a legal Windows OS. But then the salesman will hand you a list of a hundred or so non-legal programs they will be happy to load for free...

Yes, I feel a bit guilty, but, on the other hand......:)

bettyfordclinic
5-12-02, 10:22 AM
Even on very odd colours (non-256) I've never had any difficulty matching image colours with a correct html colour value.

bfc

muijefr
5-12-02, 08:03 PM
"Even on very odd colours (non-256) I've never had any difficulty matching image colours with a correct html colour value. "

I don't understand but I'm interested.

bettyfordclinic
5-13-02, 06:56 PM
muijefr,

I create a graphic in Photoshop for the web, and I pick a background colour from photoshop's full colour pallette (waaaaay more than 256). I export the logo as a gif/jpg, then set the html code to match the background colour that photoshop used. The colour on my exported logo will always match the background of the html page I produced. And they're not standard 256 colours.

bfc

muijefr
5-14-02, 12:36 AM
are you talking about my Web safe ColorWindows palette and if so you can use it with another graphic application, such as PhotoShop, to copy/paste any hex color code to one of the comparative input windows. I too use colors beyond the 256/216 limitation of Web safe colors, I'm sooo daring, and now that I know what your talking about I'll just say I though you could determine the hex value of any color you look at and I was so impressed. Web safe colors are making a big come back with those who develop web sites for PDAs.

http://www.the-ebiz.net/ColorWindows/Large_View.html

What's a PDA. I don't have a PDA.

sdbarker
5-14-02, 09:28 AM
Check THIS out:

http://www.opensourcepan.co.uk/programs/slugs/

-Scott

muijefr
5-14-02, 12:13 PM
Good eye! I'm not a big RGB fan but that ScreenPicker/Hex function looks like it alone would be worth the .5MB download and the price is right. I'm going to recommend this URL to a couple of graphic forms I frequent. Thanks.

sdbarker
5-14-02, 01:55 PM
No problem. I'm a giver. ;-)

-S