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CaptainRon
6-12-02, 07:23 PM
Greetings all,

Well, it's time to get beat up. Here is the splash and home page for our new site.....

www.pcgamersoasis.com

Some notes on the site....

None of the buttons/links work yet. I only made these two pages in order to upload a forum, something our community of gamers use allot. Everything else will be worked on after I get the forums up and running. Also note that there are supposed to be no pics on the right hand side. These are just image holders untill I actually have something to put there.



Now, please feel free to comment all you wish. I want any and all feedback you can think of.

Thanks.

~~Captain Ron~~

bettyfordclinic
6-12-02, 08:51 PM
Well it seems fine to me.

Sure, I've seen more professional pages, but it's still a lot better than my first web page.

The only thing I might suggest is looking into CSS for the fonts. I'm viewing it as Times, and a different font would make it stand out from all those other "times" sites. There are a few CSS threads in here somewhere already, and it's relatively easy...

Aside from that just keep designing!!! :)

bfc

Forsteen
6-12-02, 08:52 PM
Your site is nice and it is easy to navigate. Just a couple of small things.

1) Intro - "PC Gamers Oasis" - Try to avoid too many blinking, moving, and other such eye candies. Grant it they will just click enter right away, but it is a good rule of thumb. If possible try to put a border around enter so it doesn't look out of place.

Main page - I use 1024x768 and everything fits, but I wonder if the title on the page will cause you some problems with those that are still using 800x600. The news button roll over isn't working correctly. The highlighted news doens't want to show up.

Other than that it works and looks good. You've kept everything to a theme and nothing seem out of place. Nothing outrageous when it comes to color so it is easy on the eyes. The font is big enough so no problems there.

Good luck with the rest of the site and good job.

(jj)
6-12-02, 08:59 PM
From the 2 pages that you have, if you continue with using the K.I.S.S principal this way... you will have a nice looking site that can offer everything you want it to, without being overloaded with bells and whistles.

A nice simple "effective" splash/enter page and a good clean, readable main page. Button images do not take long to load, and work well when they do.

All in All... a very nice start :)



Just my "For What It's Worth"

frequencypro
6-12-02, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by (jj)
...if you continue with using the K.I.S.S principal this way...

K.I.S.S. Principal? Never heard of it? What's it stand for? I'm guessing something like "Keep It Simple _______"?

gwissen
6-13-02, 11:15 PM
If you want to be polite, KISS stands for "Keep It Simple Smarty". The more usual translation is "Keep It Simple Stupid". Take your pick

- Gail

Atomic-Design
6-14-02, 01:06 AM
Minor errors, all fixable by nonetheless expirence. First off, download the trial of Fireworks, http://www.macromedia.com, which is real easy to use. Make your own logos, so you don't have to use flaming text. Next, get a more appropriate color theme. The colorless borders on your tables are boring. Your buttons are well ... a little dorkish .... haha. Don't be mad, it's a real good site. My first site was pretty bad. Don't be hard on yourself either. I think you should just keep designing, because you obviously understand the embedding of tables very well.

redcircle
6-16-02, 06:19 AM
My first site was back in the day before tables. before frames. they didn't even have background colors. pretty much text, links, grey background and some images. No one had any knowledge on how a webpage should look. Yer doin a great job. Look at other peoples site's. Steal their HTML code and try to re-write it. This will learn you HTML. That's how I did it so I know the method works. Just some advice. If you really want to learn how to design. Throw out any HTML editors(frontpage, dreamweaver) you may have and just use notepad or DOS edit. Once you understand how to make a link, add an image and how tables work in plain text then goto a WYSIWYG editor. The only thing a WYSIWYG editor is good for is speeding up the design process. If you don't know how things work in the source you will get stuck if you run into a problem.

Atomic-Design
6-16-02, 02:19 PM
redcircle, it's quite foolish to start designing with WYSIWYG editors. I was told to learn HTML fluently before I fiddled with Dreamweaver. I never understood why, but now I do. Notepad is generally useless if you are fluent in HTML, because Dreamweaver is just a lot faster. Dreamweaver becomes a more practical solution when you learn HTML well.

gwissen
6-16-02, 02:52 PM
I agree that it is much better to learn how to code in HTML before using an editor. However, I recommend using TextPad instead of Notepad.

TextPad is like Notepad on steroids. You can have multiple files open and copy/paste between them. Also, you can do some global editing that really saves time.

The url for learning about this utility is
www.textpad.com (http://www.textpad.com)
You can download an evaluation copy and then buy it if you agree it's useful ($27.00 usd)

- Gail

redcircle
6-16-02, 03:32 PM
well I still do 95% of my editing in DOS edit. When I'm lazy i'll open up DW. Notepad useless if fluent in HTML, how? what else are you going to use. DW is a WYSIWYG editor. so is FP. Best way to learn is look at people's code and try to reconstruct it in a text editor. This way through trial and error you can get the correct results. I know this takes longer but you will know your stuff better.

TextPad.. that sounds cool. Global editing, sweet.

Forsteen
6-16-02, 04:01 PM
If you already know how to write in html and fluent with it then why spend more time than needed. Hop into DW and go away at it. Once you know HTML good then it becomes a troubleshooting tool. You need to be proficient, but why put more work into than necessary.

I started using geocities about 3.5 years ago just typing in html and using paint (terrible choice I know) as my picture creator. It took me 8 months for my first website. I learned a lot from it and after that it was time to move on. I've tried plenty of programs and DW worked best for me.

Atomic-Design
6-17-02, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by Forsteen
If you already know how to write in html and fluent with it then why spend more time than needed. Hop into DW and go away at it. Once you know HTML good then it becomes a troubleshooting tool. You need to be proficient, but why put more work into than necessary.

I started using geocities about 3.5 years ago just typing in html and using paint (terrible choice I know) as my picture creator. It took me 8 months for my first website. I learned a lot from it and after that it was time to move on. I've tried plenty of programs and DW worked best for me.

Exactly! If you know HTML well, why not speed up the process and be practical? And of course if Dreamweaver messes up, you know HTML to fix it. It's just saving time, and doing the most practical.