View Full Version : Powweb, what did you do ? were all mad!
Hay powweb , have you looked at your forums latley?
Do you see that this migration has resulted massive amounts of problems?
Are you aware that questions on these fixes are going no where?
For years I was with you as many of us, but today its like your a different company!
Is it cause you changed ownerships?
You need to place some people here to answer and SOLVE these problems such as form mail not working among others before everyone is migrated and we all leaving you for someone else.
Come on now lets get on the ball and dont send the moderator out on us for the problems you created when everythiong was working just fine.
You ever here of if it aint broke dont fix it?
:mad:
On the other hand some of us have had no problems whatsoever, apart from a brief moment of confusion.
I'm just saying that while yes, there have been problems as a result of migrations, there have also been a lot of successful migrations as well.
On the other hand some of us have had no problems whatsoever, apart from a brief moment of confusion.
I'm just saying that while yes, there have been problems as a result of migrations, there have also been a lot of successful migrations as well.
If you just have a regular site, I think you will have no problem. But if you use databases, then you're pretty much f***** right now.
I have Wordpress and Invision Power Board and they're both messed up. Wordpress can not even establish connection to the database and my Invision Power Board forum doesn't show any of our posts at all and also problem with log in. It used to be you log in with user name, now you have to enter the entire email address. :confused:
progravix
6-13-06, 03:41 PM
On the other hand some of us have had no problems whatsoever, apart from a brief moment of confusion.
I'm just saying that while yes, there have been problems as a result of migrations, there have also been a lot of successful migrations as well.
Thank you. I needed to hear this. All I've heard was people complaining, which I've done a lot of myself. While I'm no where near getting out of the murky waters, I hope I can begin to see the pinhole of light at the end of the tunnel.
Well here's another one, progravix. My migration went without a hitch. I must admit it's a rather simple place with only a Coppermine Gallery for now. But Coppermine does use a database and everything moved fine.
When things go wrong, people complain and post. When things go right, people don't do anything. Makes it look like more problems than there are.
Pestilence
6-13-06, 03:48 PM
But the issue reaslly isn't one of Success vs Failure. Its more of an issue of how Powweb is dealing with those who've had the problems. Honestly, its not sounding good out there at all.
Things are working fine before the migration, then afer things aren't, with some people being told its their Fault, or their site not Powweb. Seems to me if everything was working fine before mIgration, then after the migration isn't working, has to be something with the migration.
While I'm Glad to hear that there are those who haven't had any troubles, just seems that maybe Powweb dropped the ball on this and wasn't as ready as they thought.
But the issue reaslly isn't one of Success vs Failure. Its more of an issue of how Powweb is dealing with those who've had the problems. Honestly, its not sounding good out there at all.
Things are working fine before the migration, then afer things aren't, with some people being told its their Fault, or their site not Powweb. Seems to me if everything was working fine before mIgration, then after the migration isn't working, has to be something with the migration.
While I'm Glad to hear that there are those who haven't had any troubles, just seems that maybe Powweb dropped the ball on this and wasn't as ready as they thought.
Ditto! I was told by a tech support guy earlier that the problem is within Invision Power Board. :confused: My forum was working perfectly fine before the migration and then after the migration all the posts on my forum is gone and logging in has been messed up too.
My Wordpress has been working really well before migration and now it can not even connect to the database.
For those of you with no problem, hurray to you. But don't tell me to complain when things go wrong because I have the right to voice my opinion same as you and I paid for this service too and only wan't it to work properly!
If you're on the same boat as me you'd be complaining too!
Come on now lets get on the ball and dont send the moderator out on us for the problems you created when everythiong was working just fine.
PowWeb or Endurance has no power to send or give orders to moderators.
But we moderators have no power to push PowWeb or Endurance to work in certain way, either.
We are almost as powerless as normal users in this migration.
And I feel bad for what's happening to some of you.
I tried to prevent these from happening, but I'm not the guy making decisions, evidently.
On the brighter note, I think things will settle down, slowly.
It might be too slow for some users, though ....
vkapadia
6-13-06, 04:37 PM
I'm just saying that while yes, there have been problems as a result of migrations, there have also been a lot of successful migrations as well.
yes, but on the old platform everybody was happy, no problems. after migration, lot of happy customers, but also lot of problems. you tell me which is better.
I think some balance is called for. A website these days is sort of like a car, it's a complex piece of machinery with lots of parts that people expect to "just work". Familiarity breeds contempt for the mechanics that go into making things "just work". PW/E should have done a lot of things differently:
- Documented all common old/new paths to anything below /htdocs
- Documented new locations and behaviors for MySQL
- Documented changes for .htdocs, index pages, permissions, etc
- Setup a "triage" page for known issues and resolutions, assigned people to monitor Support and forums and link up problems with resolutions
... there are a lot of other hind-sight things that PW/E can/could (or partially did) do, but site administrators need to understand too that they have accepted responsibility for complex technical software, and they need to do some homework to figure out how it works. That takes time.
Some people need to quit whining about the same issues over and over again - your live site is working and the migration site will just take time to migrate - what's the rush and why the whining? Yes, PW should provide responses but give them some time and then re-ask if required. If your live site isn't running, I'm sure PW people are working on it as they always do. Chill out, whining won't help and it's not related to migration.
Some sites do have migration issues (I do) and others don't. These will be worked out soon - and hopefully with a couple site managers getting a little education. You can't generalize cries for help here into a failed migration effort. Trust me, this could be a lot more FUBAR than it is. It may look like a war zone in these forums but I think things are going OK.
yes, but on the old platform everybody was happy, no problems. after migration, lot of happy customers, but also lot of problems. you tell me which is better.I don't think that was true. Some people were unhappy, some people had problems, some people were unhappy with the support offered. All you need to do is check the forums for the last few months of 2005.
Having said that, the migration has presented many problems and the recent problems with the Legacy servers didn't help migration either as people didn't know what was wrong. Many posts repeated the same message, 'My site is broken' in one way or another - and these, remember are sites that haven't migrated so the problem would have happened with or without migration.
I don't know which is better yet - it's far too early to tell. The problems with Joombla and Wordpress will be solved, other problems to do with migration will be solved and then things will settle down.
I think some balance is called for. A website these days is sort of like a car, it's a complex piece of machinery with lots of parts that people expect to "just work". Familiarity breeds contempt for the mechanics that go into making things "just work". PW/E should have done a lot of things differently:
- Documented all common old/new paths to anything below /htdocs
- Documented new locations and behaviors for MySQL
- Documented changes for .htdocs, index pages, permissions, etc
- Setup a "triage" page for known issues and resolutions, assigned people to monitor Support and forums and link up problems with resolutions
... there are a lot of other hind-sight things that PW/E can/could (or partially did) do, but site administrators need to understand too that they have accepted responsibility for complex technical software, and they need to do some homework to figure out how it works. That takes time.
Answer: I don't expect things to just work. FYI I have configured and got my forum and blog running. I set them up myself. My site was running great before the migration, genius. Now you're saying I have to take apart the forum and blog scripts to make it work with Powweb when it was working perfectly fine before PW migrated my site? You're not making a lot of sense dude.
Some people need to quit whining about the same issues over and over again - your live site is working and the migration site will just take time to migrate - what's the rush and why the whining? Yes, PW should provide responses but give them some time and then re-ask if required. If your live site isn't running, I'm sure PW people are working on it as they always do. Chill out, whining won't help and it's not related to migration.
Answer: Some people like yourself just can't help telling other people what to do. No one tells you to read posts of people "whining" about their service. People react differently with situations so who are you and what right do you have to tell people what to do? If you're fine with how things are right now then good for you. Why do you try to make others think the same way as yourself?
Some sites do have migration issues (I do) and others don't. These will be worked out soon - and hopefully with a couple site managers getting a little education. You can't generalize cries for help here into a failed migration effort. Trust me, this could be a lot more FUBAR than it is. It may look like a war zone in these forums but I think things are going OK.
How can you even compare a car to a website. :eek:
Ahhh... my suggestion.
If your site is working great and you have time, please assist those who needs help.
If your site is having some problems, contacting support is the best way, IMO.
Big company like Endurance understands statistics.
If you can find walk around by yourself, please do it. As you can see, support is very busy, right now.
And I'm closing this thread.
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