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dkronsta
11-13-07, 01:05 PM
Anyone know anything about this offering from powweb? It is supposed to increase upload speeds. Is it just paying for reduced throttling on their side, or is it some actual software difference? They say it works with any workstation - but does that mean ANY ftp software?

I am starting to use powweb as a target for desktop backups using SyncbackSE via FTP, and my upload speeds may be limited by my upward cable modem speeds - but faster would be nice.

Dan

YvetteKuhns
11-13-07, 01:23 PM
Read the Terms of Service. You are not allowed to use your web host plan for computer backups. You can only host files used for your website.

Doc C
11-13-07, 01:36 PM
Yvette is right. Here is the snippet from Section 13 of the User Agreement:

...Hosting space is intended for normal use only, and is limited to Web files, e-mail and content of the hosted Web sites, not for storage of media or other data. Hosting space may not be used as offsite storage for electronic files or for third party electronic mail or FTP hosts. You are responsible for removing any files which do not meet these requirements, and for adhering to any hosting space (disk usage) limits allocated to your account(s). Failure to do so may result in removal and deletion of such materials, and/or in discontinuation of your services or account, which actions we may take in our sole discretion... (emphasis mine)

dkronsta
11-13-07, 06:44 PM
Sorry about that - I will delete what I have there already, which isn't much.

Dan

Doc C
11-13-07, 06:48 PM
Better you find it out now from us fellow customers than PowWeb find out somehow and drop the hammer on your site. We're not ragging on you, just trying to help, ya know. :)

For offsite backups, you can try Carbonite. From what I hear, they are pretty good. Heck, it kept Han Solo frozen for a while. :D

dkronsta
11-13-07, 06:59 PM
Better you find it out now from us fellow customers than PowWeb find out somehow and drop the hammer on your site. We're not ragging on you, just trying to help, ya know. :)

For offsite backups, you can try Carbonite. From what I hear, they are pretty good. Heck, it kept Han Solo frozen for a while. :D

No problem - I appreciate the heads up.

I tried Carbonite a while back - as I remember, it was painfully slow. I have been using Connected, which is great - but it is about to renew for $165/year for 2 gig. I was trying to use Amazon's S3 storage service using an independent virtual disk driver called Jungledisk - but I am having too many problems with that. I use SyncbackSE already, so I figured lets try FTP, and I already had space available on Powweb ... anyone know if an inexpensive FTP that DOES allow use for backups? <g>

Dan

Doc C
11-13-07, 07:41 PM
What type of files are you trying to keep backed up and how many gig? You can buy a fairly large USB external HD pretty cheaply nowadays and copy files over to it.

I use a 160gig and backup my system once a week, keeping two weeks worth of archives. Or are you looking to be able to access the data from another location?

YvetteKuhns
11-13-07, 08:09 PM
See this thread about backups (http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?t=77409).

dkronsta
11-13-07, 09:36 PM
What type of files are you trying to keep backed up and how many gig? You can buy a fairly large USB external HD pretty cheaply nowadays and copy files over to it.

I use a 160gig and backup my system once a week, keeping two weeks worth of archives. Or are you looking to be able to access the data from another location?

I do disk to disk backups and data sync all the time. But I want my data backed up off site as well. I did not like Carbonite or Mozy. I really just want a remote storage solution, and I will use the disk sync / backup software that I already have.

I found another drive mapping utility for Amazon's S3 storage service, so I am trying that now. I also may check out what someone mentioned in the backup thread - my ATT (isp) "web page" storage ...

Thanks
Dan

Doc C
11-13-07, 09:42 PM
Most ISPs don't give you that much space. Mine gives me a whopping 10meg for each ID I create up to 8.

poddys
11-14-07, 02:42 PM
The latest prices for external USB hard drives in the USA are amazing. You can now get a 500gb drive for just over $100 from various places including newegg.com and buy.com, plus even Dell is offering them cheap. Best and simplest way to back up for many of us...

YvetteKuhns
11-14-07, 03:16 PM
For privacy and security, I don't like to back up files online.

entrecon
11-14-07, 03:21 PM
May just be my paranoia, but I don't like to save my back-up stuff online either.

Doc C
11-14-07, 03:51 PM
Well, I think the original poster's question has been answered. We'll give 'em a couple of days to verify it though.

No matter where you do them, backups good. No backups, bad.

tpoynton
11-14-07, 04:00 PM
online backups have the benefit of being accessible anywhere. it is at the potential cost of privacy, if you put sensitive info online.

YvetteKuhns
11-14-07, 04:06 PM
online backups have the benefit of being accessible anywhere.

True, but the original poster mentioned desktop backups.

tpoynton
11-14-07, 04:24 PM
he was also talking about doing them online :)

poddys
11-14-07, 05:23 PM
Horses for courses... (as an ex manager used to say).

There are some things that are probably good to backup online, but I would rule out any really large files or large volumes of data from the time point of view for a start - unless you have a T1 handy...

External drives are extremely portable, so if one machine goes down you can just unplug and plug into another. Very flexible, and if shared (securely) they can be accessed remotely too.

All depends on the setup and your requirements.

But Doc C hit it on the head - any backup is good - no backup is bad...
Been there!

dkronsta
11-15-07, 01:56 AM
Well, I think the original poster's question has been answered. We'll give 'em a couple of days to verify it though.

No matter where you do them, backups good. No backups, bad.

Unless I missed something, we never really did discuss what FTP ZOOM is. I won't be using it, but I am still curious.

Dan

Doc C
11-15-07, 02:09 AM
FTP Zoom is a server side utility that allows you to FTP your files up to 3 times faster than before. However, be aware that some ISPs may cap the upload speed. For example, if your ISP's cap is 40K/sec, your upload speed will stay 40K/sec, whether your use FTP Zoom or not.

I Googled it. :)

YvetteKuhns
11-15-07, 10:36 AM
Has anyone tried it? My uploads/downloads are fast with my cable modem and I am not usually uploading an entire website and a bunch of large files at one time. Of course, this sounds handy for Brandon Miller. ;)

joshuamc
11-16-07, 10:59 AM
FTP Zoom, to my knowledge, is no longer offered to PowWeb customers as a product since we bumped up the throttle to FTP Zoom levels some time last year.

dkronsta
11-16-07, 04:25 PM
FTP Zoom, to my knowledge, is no longer offered to PowWeb customers as a product since we bumped up the throttle to FTP Zoom levels some time last year.

I cannot find it now, but it was still being offered on a Powweb Ops web page a couple of days ago.

Dan