Rusbasan
9-19-02, 02:43 AM
Andrew just made an announcement about how posts are going to be deleted if they're not "friendly" or "constructive". bbrad then started a thread called "Deleted Threads & Posts" which was, well, not that friendly. He commented, "Please Lets see if this thread gets CLOSED or posts deleted." Sure enough, it's already gone.
I am quite frankly disappointed in the tone Andrew takes in his latest announcement. Starr has a nice post about how they know they have had problems, they're doing the best they can, etc. Then Andrew undermines all of that in his announcement by saying "We are trying to bring back the 'community' within our forums. We would like to keep the forums friendly and constructive. We reserve the right to remove, modify or move posts at our discretion and without explanation."
Andrew, I know you're frustrated. You've probably worked very hard at getting things going, and the last thing you want to see is a bunch of people complaining about the problems of the past few days and the few remaining issues. But look at it from our point of view. A lot of people are very upset that their sites were down, they couldn't access their email, etc. Lecturing them that they must now be "friendly" or their posts will be deleted is just throwing fuel on the fire.
If people want to vent a little, let them. If two are three threads get started on the same subject, big deal. It never was a problem before. Let people let off a little steam and discuss things.
Does PowWeb really want to start fighting with their customers? I don't think that's productive. Let people complain a little. If they have real issues, let them discuss them. If something doesn't get resolved after a few rounds of user discussion, jump in and help.
I don't know why there are suddenly so many moderators and why there seems to be this need to control people. Everything seemed to be fine before when there was minimal moderation.
To my fellow PowWeb users, I say look at the price you're paying for the service you're getting. Yes, the last few days have been disappointing, but nobody has personally targeted you. If you have any remaining problems, try to calmly sort them out. Ranting and raving and posting 14-point lists of demands is not going to help anyone.
Andrew, delete this post if you must. I'd hope you'd also delete your own post, and we can get back to how things were before. We're not going to get back this sense of community you talk about under threat of post deletion. Just let people talk things out, and it will be fine in a few days.
I am quite frankly disappointed in the tone Andrew takes in his latest announcement. Starr has a nice post about how they know they have had problems, they're doing the best they can, etc. Then Andrew undermines all of that in his announcement by saying "We are trying to bring back the 'community' within our forums. We would like to keep the forums friendly and constructive. We reserve the right to remove, modify or move posts at our discretion and without explanation."
Andrew, I know you're frustrated. You've probably worked very hard at getting things going, and the last thing you want to see is a bunch of people complaining about the problems of the past few days and the few remaining issues. But look at it from our point of view. A lot of people are very upset that their sites were down, they couldn't access their email, etc. Lecturing them that they must now be "friendly" or their posts will be deleted is just throwing fuel on the fire.
If people want to vent a little, let them. If two are three threads get started on the same subject, big deal. It never was a problem before. Let people let off a little steam and discuss things.
Does PowWeb really want to start fighting with their customers? I don't think that's productive. Let people complain a little. If they have real issues, let them discuss them. If something doesn't get resolved after a few rounds of user discussion, jump in and help.
I don't know why there are suddenly so many moderators and why there seems to be this need to control people. Everything seemed to be fine before when there was minimal moderation.
To my fellow PowWeb users, I say look at the price you're paying for the service you're getting. Yes, the last few days have been disappointing, but nobody has personally targeted you. If you have any remaining problems, try to calmly sort them out. Ranting and raving and posting 14-point lists of demands is not going to help anyone.
Andrew, delete this post if you must. I'd hope you'd also delete your own post, and we can get back to how things were before. We're not going to get back this sense of community you talk about under threat of post deletion. Just let people talk things out, and it will be fine in a few days.