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    Helpful Links

    I think a list of links to sites that may help those who are trying to improve their Search Engine listing might be of use.

    Please post any URL's to this thread that you feel may be of use in this way, or PM them to me and I'll add them to this thread.

    BUT PLEASE: Only post in this thead if you have some usefull information or links to add. Please try to keep all other questions to their own threads.

    Here are 3 to get started

    Googles Webmaster Resource

    Search Engine Watch

    Robots Text
    where you can find good info on how best to set your robots.txt file.
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    Good Info

    Reposted Here by permission of Rainbore:

    The wait for a permanent listing on Google seems to vary widely from site to site. Google says to expect it to take four to eight weeks after it crawls your site. With a little luck, you might be listed after the next google dance at the end of the month. Since the googlebot has already passed through your site, you might even have a temporary listing now. From the messages I've been reading on various bulletin boards, it looks like Google gives new sites a short period of extra visibility (listing plus high ranking) to see if the listing generates click-throughs - that is, to see if actual users will want to see the site based on the entry, rather than judging on their mysterious ranking algorithm alone. It is not unusual for new listings like this to disappear suddenly as Google re-compiles their master index. It doesn't mean you've been banned or anything, its just part of their process. You could easily re-appear in the next week. So, in the words of the late great Douglas Adams, don't panic.

    Google doesn't pay much attention to <meta> tags. It will use the "description" if no other source of information is available, and it will respect a "robots/noindex", but the "revisit" tag is ignored. I have a vague hunch that the more often Google sees that you've updated pages it has in its index, the more often it will return. I think its true and I hope its true, but I have no reliable evidence that its true. If it is true, it would reinforce the principle that content is king on Google.

    I know I'm the local Google fanatic, but I have been working on search engine ranking for our three websites since August and had some very good results by just doing the simple things the search engines beg you to do. I've come up with a list of 4 key areas I think every webmaster needs to focus on in order to get good results with search engines, based on what I've learned over the past three months:

    (1) Put lots of keyword-rich human-readable content on your front page with a good number of links (again, rich in keywords within the <a>nchor tags) to key pages within your site. Google judges the relevancy of keywords to a user's search query in part by the distance between the occurance of the keywords and the top of the .html document and the proximity of the keywords to each other. This especially includes the <title> tag. Repetition of keywords does not enhance ranking except as it relates to keyword proximity.

    (2) Submit your site to The Open Directory Project and Yahoo's Directory. A listing in either directory will get you a listing in Google and most other search engines.

    (3) Get other relevant sites to link to you. A link that includes your site name or other keywords within the <a>nchor tags is better for Google ranking.

    (4) Install a proper robots.txt file in your root directory. See http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/robots.html . It keeps robots out of your private or content-free directories and shows an awareness of the search engines that can only help you.

    Do these four things and you'll be well on your way. I've included nearly everything here that I think has been key to our recent success. Good luck!


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    When in Rome...

    Once in Google you'll be in most free engines, So follow Rainbores 4 comandments above and you'll be well on your way.

    "If you are responsible for a web site, the following information may be of interest"
    http://www.google.com/webmasters/

    "Googlebot obeys the noindex, nofollow, and noarchive meta-tags"
    http://www.google.com/bot.html

    -In Australia Ninemsn carries around 80% of local search traffic. An astounding amount at near $400au to list. http://ninemsn.com.au/homepage.asp
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    Here's a good article about how Google indexes the pages the Webpro News.

    http://www.webpronews.com/articles/2...11dthies2.html
    All the best, Rick E

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    Here's an informative article about the "Google Dance".
    http://www.sitepronews.com/archives/2003/may/2.html

    Here's a web site with loads of Google information.
    http://google.indicateur.com/
    Last edited by Rick_E; 5-14-03 at 10:37 PM.
    All the best, Rick E

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    I'm a novice at this, but have learnt a bit by playing with the index page and watching my site come and go in the Google list, including a frustrating 30 days or so after the 'bot had called and found Neptune down!

    I run a very small info and sales site for a part-time tree nursery of mine as well as a site for special needs students at the college I work at. Being a cheapskate, both are accessed from the same URL www.poplargreg.com
    I have found the best chance of a good listing in Google is to pack as many key words into the <TITLE> tag on the index page as possible - don't waste space with anything irrelevant to a possible search. It seems that Google takes more notice of the title than the page body itself.

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    If anybody is concerned about google SERPS right now, this tool might be of use. It can check your results in 56 of google datacenters.

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    You don't need to pay search engines to get good rankings. Instead, make your site search engine friendly and hand submit your site to the top several search engines. http://dmoz.org and http://google.com are the two most important search engines.

    If your site is in a category like dog kennels that has thousands of sites, it will be hard to reach the top of the listings. In this case the main differentiation for your site may be the name and the location so be sure to include the name and location of your business as keywords.

    Try to imagine what people would type in if they were searching for your specific web site site, then include those words in your list of keywords.

    Make your site search engine friendly by doing the following things:

    1) Include the five best keywords in the title of every page. You can vary the wording and keywords from page to page.

    2) Include the fifteen best keywords in the keywords metatag on every page. Include common misspellings and include your domain name as keywords.

    3) Include the five best keywords in the description metatag on every page. Include your domain name in the description, perhaps at the end.

    4) Include the five best keywords near the top of the text of every page, such as in a page banner.

    5) Add your site description as the image alternate text for every significant image on every page. Vary the wording of the alternate text from image to image in order to include additional keywords and phrases.

    6) Provide a site map page with links to every page in your site. Link to your site map from your home page.

    7) Try to get as many different sites as possible to link to your home page. Email the webmasters and ask them to link to you. These sites may include the local chamber of commerce, trade associations, and enthusiast groups.

    Doing these things will help you get good rankings. Be aware that it may take two months to show up in the rankings. Don't resubmit more often than once per month.
    All the best, Rick E

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    wow ... theres a lot more one can do with their site

    thanks for sharing so much information .. i will try to at least implement a little from it if not all ..

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    Creating and submiting a xml sitemap is worth considering.

    Creating an xml sitemap couldnt be simpler if you dont know how to code one. Visit http://www.xml-sitemaps.com/

    Then once youve created it go to the following website and Sign Up/Login and submit the sitemap URL.

    http://www.google.com/webmasters/
    http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/

    Also Add the address of the sitemap in your Robots.txt

    Code:
    Sitemap: http://www.yourwebsite.com/sitemap.xml
    Remember and put your own URL for your sitemap in their.

    All this should make it a bit easier for the search bots to find your web paged.

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