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    Slow Loading

    All four domains are loading slow on mine.

    been for a few months now.

    truxter.org w/p
    truxtertech.com w/p
    iworkwithpeople.com w/p
    iworkwithtech.com Joomla


    is it everyone on that section of the server that is down and loading slow ?

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    I only checked the iworkwithtech site but it seemed quick enough to me. Maybe 2 second load time including googleads. Maybe run a tracert?

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    I don't see what a tracert will do.

    But I did it while typing and it timed out for me.

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    Timed out where? At Powweb? Before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruXter View Post
    I don't see what a tracert will do.
    Here's what it does: it pinpoints where things break down. I went ahead and did tracerts on my domain and one of yours. Here's the results:

    To troop53.net:
    Code:
    Tracing route to troop53.net [65.254.250.103]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    
      1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  dsldevice.att.net [192.168.1.254]
      2    27 ms    28 ms    31 ms  76-253-48-3.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net [76.253.48.3]
      3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      6    25 ms    28 ms    24 ms  12.83.40.5
      7    47 ms    46 ms    45 ms  ggr3.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.17]
      8    83 ms    85 ms    86 ms  192.205.36.222
      9    85 ms    83 ms    85 ms  be2032.ccr22.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.53]
     10    91 ms    93 ms    93 ms  be2141.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.157]
     11    85 ms    87 ms    89 ms  be2159.mpd22.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.82]
     12    70 ms    70 ms    69 ms  be2139.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.178]
     13    71 ms    69 ms    70 ms  te2-1.ccr01.bos07.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.242]
     14    71 ms    69 ms    70 ms  38.104.252.54
     15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
     16    71 ms    71 ms    70 ms  65-254-250-103.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.250.103]
    
    Trace complete.
    And to truxter.org:
    Code:
    Tracing route to truxter.org [65.254.250.103]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    
      1     3 ms     1 ms     1 ms  dsldevice.att.net [192.168.1.254]
      2    34 ms    24 ms    25 ms  76-253-48-3.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net [76.253.48.3]
      3     *       28 ms    36 ms  71.144.225.48
      4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
      6    24 ms    26 ms    26 ms  12.83.40.5
      7    47 ms    45 ms    46 ms  ggr3.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.17]
      8    75 ms    77 ms    78 ms  192.205.36.222
      9    67 ms    82 ms    83 ms  be2032.ccr22.dfw01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.53]
     10    84 ms    86 ms    79 ms  be2141.mpd22.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.157]
     11    83 ms    86 ms    91 ms  be2158.mpd21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.7.130]
     12    70 ms    70 ms    69 ms  be2140.ccr22.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.186]
     13    70 ms    72 ms    69 ms  te2-1.ccr01.bos07.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.46.242]
     14    69 ms    70 ms    70 ms  38.104.252.54
     15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
     16    70 ms    69 ms    71 ms  65-254-250-103.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.250.103]
    
    Trace complete.
    Notice that both tracerts have timeout issues in Dallas, as well as the hop from cogentco.com to PW.

    71.144.225.48 belongs to AT&T as does 12.83.40.5 so that means there's a hiccup in Dallas right now.

    38.104.252.54 belongs to cogentco.com so there must be a slight delay between them and PW as well.

    The biggest delay seems to be AT&T, at least from the STL area. Since you live in Texas, you may be having the same delays.
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    I didn't get a timeout when I did a tracert from the uk, but did get a delay from 38.104.252.54 into Powweb that was 168ms

    There could be something up with Powweb & the link to the outside world.
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    168ms is <2/10 of a second. Hardly noticeable. I still think it's AT&T in Dallas. Things seem to bounce around in there, or try to get in there, for far longer.

    Any clue how long it takes for a request to time out? Is it 1 second? 2? more?
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    Google gave this link

    I knew it was configurable, just not the timeout default of 4000ms (seems a long time!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanS View Post
    4000ms (seems a long time!)
    OK, 4 seconds is noticeable!
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    Still slow

    My sites have all been slow for a long time.

    The company I work for is looking for a new service and I keep wanting to bring them here but can not use my sites as an example because it takes too long to load the pages.

    Why is it so slow?

    We are also wanting to use one of the cloud and back up products but again, we don't want to be stuck waiting for our files.

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    Twice now you've said your sites are "slow". Please define "slow". Is it 3 seconds, 30 seconds, 3 minutes?
    What is your connection speed: dialup? fiber-optic? Somewhere in between?

    Now, I checked your iworkwithtech.com site again. Opened it in Firefox with Web Developer Tools (F12). The rundown is that there are 23 requests, 649.28kb data/bandwidth, and it took 9.43 seconds to load. Pretty reasonable on my connection. Especially for 650kb (at least triple what I consider acceptable on the majority of my pages) and considering that 12 of the 23 file requests were to outside resources. Each one of which is subject to separate loadtime issues over which Powweb has no control.

    Over half of the page weight, and one-third of the load time (almost 3 seconds), is taken up with a .swf file (watch_as3.swf -- 387kb).

    Quote Originally Posted by TruXter View Post
    We are also wanting to use one of the cloud and back up products but again, we don't want to be stuck waiting for our files.
    What does that have to do with Powweb? AFAIK they don't run cloud storage and backup sites. They do advertise them.

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    You are correct.
    but when is the last time you looked at your control panel and saw any of the offers from their affiliates?

    I see them every time I log in

    but the idea isn't to argue about what you notice or not.


    and about how many times I have said my site is slow. have you read the thread to see other people's responses?

    You can ping them if you want or you can try and load them if you must, I mean I did type the links in for you to see for yourself.

    as far as a website goes, you don't want one second of load time. I am seeing up to 10 seconds.
    I am using 50 mbs service. I have tested on a dsl, 4g,3g and uverse.
    It has been this way for about a year now.
    Thanks for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruXter View Post
    You are correct.
    but when is the last time you looked at your control panel and saw any of the offers from their affiliates?

    I see them every time I log in
    Me too, but that's the point. Powweb advertises them to you and gets a chunk of money for each click-through/signup. Just like AdSense/GoogleAds/etc. They don't run the services, they only hope to make money advertising them.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruXter View Post
    and about how many times I have said my site is slow. have you read the thread to see other people's responses?
    Yeah I've read the thread. Several responses so far have been mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruXter View Post
    You can ping them if you want or you can try and load them if you must, I mean I did type the links in for you to see for yourself.
    That's exactly what I did for my previous post and another one from a year ago. By the way, you never responded to that post with a tracert showing where things were hanging. Oh, and 168ms was one response time to your site(s) noted by IanS a year ago. That's 0.168 second. From England. Think about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TruXter View Post
    as far as a website goes, you don't want one second of load time. I am seeing up to 10 seconds.
    I am using 50 mbs service. I have tested on a dsl, 4g,3g and uverse
    Let's do some math:
    1byte = 8 bits
    1kb = 8000 bits
    50mbs = 50,000,000 bits per second (not bytes)
    650kb = 650 kilobytes = 650,000 bytes = 5,200,000 bits (650000x8) = 5.2 Megabits

    So yes, your page should load, barring any delays anywhere along the route to any of the resource URLs, at around 1/12 of a second on your 50mbs connection.

    However.
    My home connection speed (AT&T UVerse [equivalent of slow ADSL]) is around 700-800 kilobits per second. My iPhone on 4g/LTE gets less than that most of the time. 10 seconds load time for 650kilobytes for either connection is about right. You're sending me 650,000 bytes and it takes me 700,000 bits per second to load them. That's 8-10 seconds minimum.

    Something else to consider: Every HTTP request takes around 1/10 second. Sometimes longer. You have at least 23 on iworkwithtech.com. Do your own math. OK, I'll do it for you -- 2.3 seconds just for the requests. Regardless of connection speed. So there's your starting point. If your page loads in 2.5 seconds you win.

    Look, you have no control over how a user accesses your site. Are they on a 50mbs connection like you? Are they on 4G (or God forbid, 2G, which is still common). Are they on an overloaded coffee shop WiFi signal which rivals the best of 1995 dialup speeds?

    So what can you do? Reduce your page weight by at least half. Reduce your HTTP requests by more than that.
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