Windows XP and Cable problem!

Atomic-Design · 10-18-02, 12:05 AM

Ever since I got cable I can't send files to other people on AIM. However, I can send files to the computer next to my room that's on the same connection. That computer that's on Windows ME can send files to other people, but I'm on XP and I can't except to him. Is there a default firewall or is there something blocking me from doing this?

RSaucier · 10-18-02, 12:19 AM

Are you using Windows firewall on both systems? Try going to grc.com and using the "Shields Up!" test to see how "open" your system(s) are.

If the WinMe system "fails" but XP passes, it would be due to the firewall.

10-18-02, 03:39 AM

Windows XP does have a native firewall.. That could be the issue. To check right click on your Network, select properties and advanced. If the box is checked the firewall is on. If not you've got a cork in the pipe somewhere else..

Atomic-Design · 10-19-02, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by davros
Windows XP does have a native firewall.. That could be the issue. To check right click on your Network, select properties and advanced. If the box is checked the firewall is on. If not you've got a cork in the pipe somewhere else..

The box is not checked, so I don't have the native firewall running. Actually, the Win ME box can't send files either, I was incorrect. I can only send files to the people on my router.

Atomic-Design · 10-19-02, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RSaucier
Are you using Windows firewall on both systems? Try going to grc.com and using the "Shields Up!" test to see how "open" your system(s) are.

If the WinMe system "fails" but XP passes, it would be due to the firewall.

It says it can't because im in SUPER stealth mode.

Your Internet port 139 does not appear to exist!
One or more ports on this system are operating in FULL STEALTH MODE! Standard Internet behavior requires port connection attempts to be answered with a success or refusal response. Therefore, only an attempt to connect to a nonexistent computer results in no response of either kind. But YOUR computer has DELIBERATELY CHOSEN NOT TO RESPOND (that's very cool!) which represents advanced computer and port stealthing capabilities. A machine configured in this fashion is well hardened to Internet NetBIOS attack and intrusion.

Could this be the problem? How do I disable it?

10-19-02, 01:40 AM

That means that your computer is not easily vulnerable to attack.. But you are also running behind a firewall somewhere.. Either on your router, or cable modem. (Which is a good thing) I've never come across this problem because I don't use file transfers with any chat client. If you plan to use this feature then pemission for AIM to perform said operation will have to be granted through the firewall. Where ever it is..

10-19-02, 02:08 AM

i believe your router's firewall is what's protecting you (and therefore, not allowing file transfers thru aim). if this is the source, then change your config settings in your router by going to http://yourRoutersIpAddress. most likely, the address is either http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1. a password prompt should appear: unless you changed it, your password should be admin; look in your router's manual for this info.

if you're not sure of your ip address, go to start > run > type cmd and then, at the prompt, type ipconfig /all (including the space). look for your ip address, which when behind a router that does NAT, will show your router's ip address. your actual ip address given to you by your isp's network will appear in the router config settings...

hope this helps.

Atomic-Design · 10-19-02, 03:19 AM

I got into the settings, but cannot find anything to change. Nothing is checked in the security area. Any ideas?

Atomic-Design · 10-19-02, 03:25 AM

Would disabling/enabling any of these work?

SPI:
Block WAN Request:
Multicast Pass Through:
IPSec Pass Through:
PPTP Pass Through:
Remote Management:
Remote Upgrade:
MTU:

(jj) · 10-19-02, 04:15 AM

I haven't ran AIM for a while, but I remember that it has something in the settings under "connections", I believe, about running behind a firewall.

You may just need to go into those settings in AIM and set it up for your router firewall.

Just a thought

10-19-02, 12:05 PM

i thought aim referred you to your firewall/router's settings? let me check with a couple of gurus i know.

10-19-02, 12:50 PM

k, i IM'd a network admin, who borrowed a linksys router so that he could host a lan party.

anyway, he said that you could set your ip as the DMZ host (set yourself up as the DMZ); this does, however, mean your computer is not protected by the firewall anymore, so in essence it disables the firewall capability of your linksys. he thought that in the router settings http://192.168.1.1 (unless you changed it), look under the security section.

hopefully this helps.

Atomic-Design · 10-19-02, 04:29 PM

I found the DMZ settings on my little Linksys place that you edit settings. I went to DMZ Host, and it said

This feature sets a local user to be exposed to the Internet. Any user on the Internet can access in/out data from the DMZ host. Enable the feature as you wish to use special-purpose service.

I entered my IP address, and hit "apply". It said succesfull change but I still can't send files.

Atomic-Design · 5-4-03, 09:13 PM

UPDATE: 6 Months later:

How do I add a port to be allowed to be ocnnected to?

More importantly, what is firmware and how do I upgrade it?

paulselhi · 5-4-03, 09:46 PM

firmware is similar to a motherboards bios, you get new s/w called firmware from your hardware manufacturers site and usually download and apply it rather like a flash bios

paulselhi · 5-4-03, 09:48 PM

or more plainly, it is a software configuration upgrade for your hardware

5-4-03, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Atomic-Design
More importantly, what is firmware and how do I upgrade it?

Firmware is essentially the software your device uses. Upgrading the firmware can add new capabilities and/or fix issues with your current firmware. Not sure how to update it. Hopefully someone else can help with that.

Atomic-Design · 5-5-03, 01:12 AM

All questions answered ... for now. When I get another mind boggling question I'll reply to this old thread. Thanks.

satis · 5-5-03, 02:06 AM

hmmm...I dunno if this was covered earlier in the thread, but did you disable the XP firewall? That could potentially be a problem. I assume you have no other firewalls running. How many network cards do you have? If you have 2 (or more) this may cause issues. Hrmmm...other than that, going DMZ should work.

Recently I updated my wireless router's firmware...the way to do it was through an html interface in the router configuration. For some other routers, you have to use a TFTP program. It seems to really depend on the router and the manufacturer. Check the help.

Which linksys do you have? I've got one sitting on a shelf...if you're still having problems with the firmware update, I can plug it in and see if I can figure it out.

Atomic-Design · 5-5-03, 11:00 AM

Upgrading the firmware was fairly easy. It was through an HTML interface. My Windows XP firewall is off, also. I believe only have 1 network card.

===
k, i IM'd a network admin, who borrowed a linksys router so that he could host a lan party. anyway, he said that you could set your ip as the DMZ host (set yourself up as the DMZ); this does, however, mean your computer is not protected by the firewall anymore, so in essence it disables the firewall capability of your linksys. he thought that in the router settings http://192.168.1.1 (unless you changed it), look under the security section.

hopefully this helps.
===

Just wondering how I set my IP as the DMZ host

satis · 5-5-03, 06:07 PM

well... it would appear that my linksys router has bit the dust. :/ Big, red diagnostic light won't go off. Ah well.

First you'll need to browse to your router. Go to the advanced button on the right. You should then have a DMZ tab toward the right. Once in there, you should have an IP field to fill in. It'll already be populated with the '192.168.1' and only leave the last octet for you to fill out. Put your computer's ip in there, then hit apply. This sets your computer as the DMZ host.

ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/manuals/befsr41.pdf
page 32 of the pdf

*edit* I'm curious... have you connected your XP box straight to your cable modem (ie, bypassed your router) and tried doing this AIM thing? If it still doesn't work, it's not your router that's causing the problem. You said (alot) earlier that you could do it with an ME box? If that's still the case, it's going to be something specific to your XP box. *edit*

Atomic-Design · 5-6-03, 10:09 AM

I don't even think we have the Me box anymore, lol. It's sitting downstairs missing its ram.

10-18-02, 12:05 AM	#1
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	Windows XP and Cable problem! Ever since I got cable I can't send files to other people on AIM. However, I can send files to the computer next to my room that's on the same connection. That computer that's on Windows ME can send files to other people, but I'm on XP and I can't except to him. Is there a default firewall or is there something blocking me from doing this? __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch.

10-18-02, 03:39 AM	#3
davros Posts: n/a	Windows XP Firewall Windows XP does have a native firewall.. That could be the issue. To check right click on your Network, select properties and advanced. If the box is checked the firewall is on. If not you've got a cork in the pipe somewhere else..

10-19-02, 01:40 AM	#6
davros Posts: n/a	That's A Good thing.. That means that your computer is not easily vulnerable to attack.. But you are also running behind a firewall somewhere.. Either on your router, or cable modem. (Which is a good thing) I've never come across this problem because I don't use file transfers with any chat client. If you plan to use this feature then pemission for AIM to perform said operation will have to be granted through the firewall. Where ever it is..

10-19-02, 03:19 AM	#8
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	I got into the settings, but cannot find anything to change. Nothing is checked in the security area. Any ideas? __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch.

10-19-02, 03:25 AM	#9
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	Would disabling/enabling any of these work? SPI: Block WAN Request: Multicast Pass Through: IPSec Pass Through: PPTP Pass Through: Remote Management: Remote Upgrade: MTU: __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch.

10-18-02, 12:19 AM	#2
RSaucier Registered Idiot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Lexington, KY, USA Posts: 1,244 Reputation: 5	Are you using Windows firewall on both systems? Try going to grc.com and using the "Shields Up!" test to see how "open" your system(s) are. If the WinMe system "fails" but XP passes, it would be due to the firewall.

10-19-02, 02:08 AM	#7
lostdreamer Posts: n/a	i believe your router's firewall is what's protecting you (and therefore, not allowing file transfers thru aim). if this is the source, then change your config settings in your router by going to http://yourRoutersIpAddress. most likely, the address is either http://192.168.1.1 or http://192.168.0.1. a password prompt should appear: unless you changed it, your password should be admin; look in your router's manual for this info. if you're not sure of your ip address, go to start > run > type cmd and then, at the prompt, type ipconfig /all (including the space). look for your ip address, which when behind a router that does NAT, will show your router's ip address. your actual ip address given to you by your isp's network will appear in the router config settings... hope this helps.

10-19-02, 04:15 AM	#10
(jj) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: n/a Posts: 7,279 Reputation: 202	AIM Settings?? I haven't ran AIM for a while, but I remember that it has something in the settings under "connections", I believe, about running behind a firewall. You may just need to go into those settings in AIM and set it up for your router firewall. Just a thought __________________ If silence is golden, then I must be worth million$ (jj) Jack (jj)'s Playground

10-19-02, 12:05 PM	#11
lostdreamer Posts: n/a	i thought aim referred you to your firewall/router's settings? let me check with a couple of gurus i know.

10-19-02, 12:50 PM	#12
lostdreamer Posts: n/a	k, i IM'd a network admin, who borrowed a linksys router so that he could host a lan party. anyway, he said that you could set your ip as the DMZ host (set yourself up as the DMZ); this does, however, mean your computer is not protected by the firewall anymore, so in essence it disables the firewall capability of your linksys. he thought that in the router settings http://192.168.1.1 (unless you changed it), look under the security section. hopefully this helps.

10-19-02, 04:29 PM	#13
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	I found the DMZ settings on my little Linksys place that you edit settings. I went to DMZ Host, and it said This feature sets a local user to be exposed to the Internet. Any user on the Internet can access in/out data from the DMZ host. Enable the feature as you wish to use special-purpose service. I entered my IP address, and hit "apply". It said succesfull change but I still can't send files. __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch.

5-4-03, 09:13 PM	#14
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	UPDATE: 6 Months later: How do I add a port to be allowed to be ocnnected to? More importantly, what is firmware and how do I upgrade it? __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch. Last edited by Atomic-Design : 5-4-03 at 09:21 PM.

5-4-03, 09:46 PM	#15
paulselhi Cockney Red Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 2,875 Reputation: 15	firmware is similar to a motherboards bios, you get new s/w called firmware from your hardware manufacturers site and usually download and apply it rather like a flash bios __________________ Paul Selhi Colorize Your Black and White Images www.black-and-white-to-color.com

5-4-03, 09:48 PM	#16
paulselhi Cockney Red Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 2,875 Reputation: 15	or more plainly, it is a software configuration upgrade for your hardware __________________ Paul Selhi Colorize Your Black and White Images www.black-and-white-to-color.com

5-5-03, 01:12 AM	#18
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	All questions answered ... for now. When I get another mind boggling question I'll reply to this old thread. Thanks. __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch.

5-5-03, 02:06 AM	#19
satis Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,659 Reputation: 204	hmmm...I dunno if this was covered earlier in the thread, but did you disable the XP firewall? That could potentially be a problem. I assume you have no other firewalls running. How many network cards do you have? If you have 2 (or more) this may cause issues. Hrmmm...other than that, going DMZ should work. Recently I updated my wireless router's firmware...the way to do it was through an html interface in the router configuration. For some other routers, you have to use a TFTP program. It seems to really depend on the router and the manufacturer. Check the help. Which linksys do you have? I've got one sitting on a shelf...if you're still having problems with the firmware update, I can plug it in and see if I can figure it out. __________________ Satis Clankiller Clankiller.com Forums Clankiller.com PlasmaSky.com

5-5-03, 11:00 AM	#20
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	Upgrading the firmware was fairly easy. It was through an HTML interface. My Windows XP firewall is off, also. I believe only have 1 network card. === k, i IM'd a network admin, who borrowed a linksys router so that he could host a lan party. anyway, he said that you could set your ip as the DMZ host (set yourself up as the DMZ); this does, however, mean your computer is not protected by the firewall anymore, so in essence it disables the firewall capability of your linksys. he thought that in the router settings http://192.168.1.1 (unless you changed it), look under the security section. hopefully this helps. === Just wondering how I set my IP as the DMZ host __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch.

5-5-03, 06:07 PM	#21
satis Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,659 Reputation: 204	well... it would appear that my linksys router has bit the dust. :/ Big, red diagnostic light won't go off. Ah well. First you'll need to browse to your router. Go to the advanced button on the right. You should then have a DMZ tab toward the right. Once in there, you should have an IP field to fill in. It'll already be populated with the '192.168.1' and only leave the last octet for you to fill out. Put your computer's ip in there, then hit apply. This sets your computer as the DMZ host. ftp://ftp.linksys.com/pub/manuals/befsr41.pdf page 32 of the pdf edit I'm curious... have you connected your XP box straight to your cable modem (ie, bypassed your router) and tried doing this AIM thing? If it still doesn't work, it's not your router that's causing the problem. You said (alot) earlier that you could do it with an ME box? If that's still the case, it's going to be something specific to your XP box. edit __________________ Satis Clankiller Clankiller.com Forums Clankiller.com PlasmaSky.com Last edited by satis : 5-5-03 at 06:11 PM.

5-6-03, 10:09 AM	#22
Atomic-Design Electro-shock Blues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,877 Reputation: 5	I don't even think we have the Me box anymore, lol. It's sitting downstairs missing its ram. __________________ If I lay my head down I will see you in my dream, Wearing that polka-dot dress, and sitting by the stream. Leaning in to hear you, you will whisper in my ear. And everything I need to know, I finally hear. When I was a baby we would go out to the park, And sit out in the fountain, splashing 'round until its dark. The days on forever when you only know that much, And everything I need to know is answered with one touch.

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