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Old 4-23-05, 11:38 PM   #1
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Thumbs up Here is a tip on how to get listed in Google in 48 hours

Everybody wants to get listed in Google as soon as possible and we can all agree with this statement. We all want our web statistics to go up and up, higher and higher, until we achieve that first 1 million impressions with our new websites. As you know, life just gets easier when you have 1 million page impressions per month. With an income of $7000 to $9000 a month, even the spoilest brat can life comfortably. But that's another story (we can discuss it next time), now let's stick to how to get listed in Google in 48 hours.

What I find interesting is that Google spiders high traffic forums on a daily basis, powweb forum included. Now, if you post a link to your web page in your signature, Google will find it and in 90% of cases your page will appear in Google withing 48 hours. Now the only problem with this technique is that Google will spider only 1 page, it will not go deeper. Now, look at my signature, there are at least 20 links (which I use as a demonstration and will remove them in 2 days or so). They are not spidered by Google yet, but what will happen is, Google will visit this topic probably several hours after I post it, and this topic will get spidered within 24 - 48 hours along with all the links posted. Now, sit down and watch Google do the job.

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I have been involved in SEO for sometime and I don't thing that will make any difference. It seems that Google intends to only list your domain name first/index page and after a few days to a week or so later it will then start deep linking into your site. I think it just starts be linking one level deep and then about a few weeks later it will dig down another level into your site and so on. I'm not 100% sure, but I think Google only digs down 3 levels into any site.
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I have been involved in SEO for sometime and I don't thing that will make any difference. It seems that Google intends to only list your domain name first/index page and after a few days to a week or so later it will then start deep linking into your site. I think it just starts be linking one level deep and then about a few weeks later it will dig down another level into your site and so on. I'm not 100% sure, but I think Google only digs down 3 levels into any site.
yes, exactly - at first, it's only 1 page, usually your domain, but that is why you have to implement direct links, so google can find it directly (If you look at my signature, all this content will be crawled in 48 hours, but anyways, I will delete it as soon as I publish my new website content).

anyways, you said Google digs only 3 levels deep into any site, interesting..

please tell me more, cuz I am building a huge financial website (I haven't published it yet!)

When you say '3 levels deep' what do you actually mean?

Some of my pages will be like this:
dantol.com/mutual_funds/data/ <-- would content in data be considered a second level?
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OK!

This is quite hard to talk about as I don't quite know how to put it.

But anyway.

Say that my site got into Google and no other site at all linked to my site. Well if I had my index page linked to a games page and then I had my games page linked to a sub games page and then within that page it had a page 2 and within both them pages I actually had the games which you can play then I will have two linking stuctures like the following:

(Stucture 1) Index > Main Games Page > Sub Games Page > Games that you can play

(Stucture 2) Index > Main Games Page > Sub Games Page > Sub Games Page 2 > Games that you can play

As you can see this was the stucture of my site for my games section. I found that all my pages in stucture 1 was listed within Google include every game that could be played.

I then found that all the pages listed within stucture 2 was listed apart from all the games that could be played on that page as Google add to crawl my site 4 levels deep to get to them Games.

I'm not sure, but if you directly link to them games from other sites. Then Google may crawl them.

But anyway. What I had done was to change my linking stucture completing by using sub domains for the games section as I believe that Google treats this just like and index page so now I will have the following instead:

(Stucture 1) Main Games Page (now the index) > Sub Games Page > Games that you can play

(Stucture 2) Main Games Page (now the index) > Sub Games Page > Sub Games Page 2 > Games that you can play

I don't know if you have realised, but that is why alot of forums are starting to add an achieve to their site.

This is because as the thread get older they get pushed deeper and deeper into the site where google doesn't go as it is more than three levels deep.

With the archieve it is a different sorry as they make a php script so that it has about 150 threads on a page and every page that a particular forum has is listed on every page.

So instead of seeing this the following on the normal forum view:

Back 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - Next

You will see something like the following in the achieve:

page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, and so on with about 150 thread in each page. Thats also why the archieve is quite plan any way. It is kind of similar to a link farm or a site map for the forum.

I hope you can understand what I have written as I found it rather hard to describe.

I don't know if I am accurate, but anyway they seemed to crawl my site only 3 levels deep. So I imagin they do it to others.

At first I thought that they may crawl deeper into a site as it gets older, but they seemed to not do it for my site so I then had no choice, but had to restructure the whole of my sites internal links.

I think that they only crawl a certain deepness so that they can try and get the most updated information within their search engines as many sites normally organized things like articles and things similar to that by date. So the nearest is at the top and the oldest then gets lost deep into the site.
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When you say '3 levels deep' what do you actually mean?

Some of my pages will be like this:
dantol.com/mutual_funds/data/ <-- would content in data be considered a second level?

It all depends. If your homepage links straight to data then it will be one level deep. if your homepage doesn't link to it but another page that is linked straight from your homepage links to it then it will be two levels deep.

I hope you can see what I am trying to get accrossed.
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If you get links from websites that are listed on Google, the Google search engine robot Googlebot may follow the link from that website to yours. If you get websites to link to other pages and not just the home page, that will help the robots find those pages.

Googlebot can visit your site within 48 hours IF it happens to revisit the page where your link is AND it refreshes its contents. Inktomi refreshes every 48 hours (at least it used to do so), so those links could be found faster. Forum contents change frequently and always have new contents. When robots see changes, they come to refresh the pages.

How can you get search engines to index deeper than the index page and its subpages? Try a site map that has all of the links on one page if this is possible. Converting the long php addresses to replace special characters with slashes helped some of our clients, especially when we used keyword phrases instead of cat=3. But getting links to your deeper pages is helpful.
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Eek! That's ugly!

Well, I'm fascinated to see what happens so I'll add to my new signature... How do I make my link not have to be my full URL?
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And that's all you have to say?
What I said is correct - read my first post for an explanation, don't take my words out of context - I know this from my experience.
This only refers to high traffic forums who are visited by Google on a daily basis.
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I'm not sure, but if you directly link to them games from other sites. Then Google may crawl them.

Yes, it will crawl them. Put them directly into your signature, open a fresh new topic and wait.
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If you get links from websites that are listed on Google, the Google search engine robot Googlebot may follow the link from that website to yours. If you get websites to link to other pages and not just the home page, that will help the robots find those pages.

Googlebot can visit your site within 48 hours IF it happens to revisit the page where your link is AND it refreshes its contents. Inktomi refreshes every 48 hours (at least it used to do so), so those links could be found faster. Forum contents change frequently and always have new contents. When robots see changes, they come to refresh the pages.
That's exactly what I am trying to explain.

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How can you get search engines to index deeper than the index page and its subpages? Try a site map that has all of the links on one page if this is possible. Converting the long php addresses to replace special characters with slashes helped some of our clients, especially when we used keyword phrases instead of cat=3. But getting links to your deeper pages is helpful.
Site map is a must, BUT don't put more than 100 links on 1 page.
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Well, I'm fascinated to see what happens so I'll add to my new signature... How do I make my link not have to be my full URL?
Put also links to some pages that were not indexed. Don't forget to start a new, fresh topic. This one was probably crawled earlier today. Anyways, good luck.
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I know that you can get a site added to Google within about 48 - 72 hrs by adding you sites link within your forums signature. But I don't know if it will work with your sub links that aren't the index page.

Also, I made a site map and I could have also linked to every page that was 3 levels deep and more by linking straight to them from external sites, but to be truthful. I redesigned the way my whole internal linking structure works, which involved me also using sub domains to get more index pages within Google.

I done this as in the long run it is 100% alot better than using a large site map and also linking to every page that is 3 levels and more deep as my site is very large and will be over 1 million pages big very soon, hopefully before the end of this year.
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I don't think I asked my question clearly enough...

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Well, I'm fascinated to see what happens so I'll add to my new signature... How do I make my link not have to be my full URL?

What I was trying to ask was, how do I make a link on a PowWeb signature that says "Linnet Woods Associates" but is a link to my homepage...
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It is worth adding that it is not that easy to get listed in Yahoo!.

I have a website which is scrolled by google a number of days per day and any new website listed in there will be searchable within 48 hours however at that stage there is still no great search results with the keywords .. however at least is indexed.
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Actually, I heard google knows to AVOID links in signatures of popular forums. But I think you could try placing your link in your post [still unsure on that one].

When I created my 2nd entertainment site I just put a link from Movie Trailers to it. I got traffic from google within 48 hours. Yahoo took about five days to get traffic from.

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I have a website which is scrolled by google a number of days per day and any new website listed in there will be searchable within 48 hours however at that stage there is still no great search results with the keywords .. however at least is indexed.

I can keep refreshing my awstats every twenty minutes and see that Google has visited [more hits]. Google visits my site a ton, every twenty minutes is my best estimate.

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RESULTS: It's been less than 48 hours and my pages are listed in GOOGLE, here is the proof, check it out: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&lr...tol.com+dantol

If you found my tips helpful, please add to my reputation. Thank you.
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but are you getting traffic already ?
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201 referal from Google, and that's only today and now it's only 12:39pm. There is a full day in front of me.
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Actually, I heard google knows to AVOID links in signatures of popular forums.


It will list some results, but not all of them. If you have 200 links on the PowWeb forum, Google will probably list the top few. Many forums would not allow you to post your entire portfolio in your signature, because they would consider it spamming. I wouldn't have enough room to post all of mine.
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In your User CP, click on Edit Signature.
Place your cursor where you want the link to be.
Click the button that looks like a globe with a chain link.
Enter the text that you want to be the link.
Enter the link address.
That should do it!

If the link ends up in the wrong place you can cut-n-paste to where you want it.

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If you have 200 links on the PowWeb forum, Google will probably list the top few

That goes for any site. If i had a site run of an incoming link on a site with 8000 pages.... Google may give me up to 20.

They filter out repetetiveness.

That is one reason why yahoo can report 11000 backlinks and google reports 900

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What's wrong with this forum. This is one of the newest and freshest topics and it still drops down and older topics go up (even though older topics didn't even get any replies in two weeks!)

Since 68 pages of my site were listed in Google in 24 hours, I should have changed topics to: "How to get listed in Google in 24 hours".
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It will list some results, but not all of them. If you have 200 links on the PowWeb forum, Google will probably list the top few. Many forums would not allow you to post your entire portfolio in your signature, because they would consider it spamming. I wouldn't have enough room to post all of mine.
Come on, don't you just love my signature - it only takes 2 rows (some signatures on this forum take 5 or 6 rows).
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It now looks like you are trying to spam this post just so you can get it listed further to the top of the forum just so that Google can crawl it sothat you can get all of the links in your signature crawled by Google quicker.
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It now looks like you are trying to spam this post just so you can get it listed further to the top of the forum just so that Google can crawl it sothat you can get all of the links in your signature crawled by Google quicker.
Sorry John,
that is not my intention. Google has already cralwed this topic. There is so many replies to my post and I prefer to answer all replies individually. In the future, I will try to answer all questions/comments withing 1 reply.
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Did your links all get crawled by Google then?

Are they now in the google search results?

Did it work?

By the way, I have looked at Google and don't think that this thread has been crawled by them yet.
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Hi,

Sorry for a new reply.

But I just noticed your new sig where it mentions about the contender and I have been watching now and then so I clicked on your sig.

I then noticed that on the page, which was return, it is breaking the Adsense TOS.

I'm not being mean or anything. I am just trying to let you know as I prefer that you ear it from me first so that you can change it just incase Adsense sees it and suspends your account.

In the TOS you are not ament to make sites that are just built for Adsense. Within that page, you just have a little comment and then a large Adsense ad, which is breaking their TOS as there is little content on the page, the comment is practicully telling people to click on the links, and the page is built just for the Adsense ad.

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Sorry for a new reply.

But I just noticed your new sig where it mentions about the contender and I have been watching now and then so I clicked on your sig.

I then noticed that on the page, which was return, it is breaking the Adsense TOS.

I'm not being mean or anything. I am just trying to let you know as I prefer that you ear it from me first so that you can change it just incase Adsense sees it and suspends your account.

In the TOS you are not ament to make sites that are just built for Adsense. Within that page, you just have a little comment and then a large Adsense ad, which is breaking their TOS as there is little content on the page, the comment is practicully telling people to click on the links, and the page is built just for the Adsense ad.

I hope you understand.

John, thank you for your reply. There are two frames in that page - one with Adsense code and the other with lots of content. I accidentally posted link only to one frame of the page. Thank you for mentioning this to me.
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Builder! I've only just discovered that you were kind enough to answer my question about how to turn a signature into a link... sorry I missed it - another one that didn't trigger an email so I never saw it or I would have come and thanked you straight away. Cheers!
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Google spiders high traffic forums on a daily basis, powweb forum included. Now, if you post a link to your web page in your signature, Google will find it and in 90% of cases your page will appear in Google withing 48 hours. Did you find this tip helpful?
I certainly found it very interesting. I too agree with you. you mentioned about high traffic forums, tell me few more forum as good as this.
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Surely, everyone knows that no forum on the planet could ever be as good as this?
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